Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-30-2013 | 07:42 PM
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06-30-2013 | 08:06 PM
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Bar, I hope you’re right but look at what you wrote earlier about LM and ALPA’s attorneys WRT to what “company flying.” There are a lot of things that seem black and white in the PWA that have been deemed “well according to ALPA lawyers we don’t have a leg to stand on there…”
I just don’t believe DAL would terminate such flying without first trying to get us to approve it and I’m sure ALPA National would support the effort and if ALPA National and ALPA lawyers want it...
Call it a “scope opportunity” and throw in for good measure a “How does 2 777s and 6-12 A330s sound to you guys? ALL GROWTH… for the 777 and A330 fleet! Now return the favor and say yes to this joint PWA which will allow what Alaska has already agreed to with Skywest to continue."
And IMHO only, the ALPA stamp of approval will always get you above 50.1%. So I just don't buy us terminating whatever they agree to with regional flying.
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06-30-2013 | 08:19 PM
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06-30-2013 | 08:20 PM
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Don't fall for it Johnson. A small pilot group means they bring a small amount of airplanes. And with them being the king of the codeshare, that means they bring even less passengers. (A good portion of the AA feed would stay loyal to AA.). That more than likely would mean less airplanes needed, but wait, we still have all the pilots. Guess what happens next....
06-30-2013 | 08:30 PM
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If Check Essential decided to say "ALPA SUCKS!" You'd get a rise out of a few guys and they'd tell you you're a keyboard warrior, stop throwing stones, go volunteer and so on.
If Check Essential decided to say "LEE MOAK SUCKS!" You'd get a "**** YOU!!!"
/just an observation
06-30-2013 | 08:31 PM
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Don't fall for it Johnson. A small pilot group means they bring a small amount of airplanes. And with them being the king of the codeshare, that means they bring even less passengers. (A good portion of the AA feed would stay loyal to AA.). That more than likely would mean less airplanes needed, but wait, we still have all the pilots. Guess what happens next....
06-30-2013 | 08:43 PM
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In my opinion, it is silly to discriminate among ALPA members because one operates an airplane with more than 76 seats and the other does not, but that's the one member is better than the other member language we've codified.
The Comair pilots should have bought the DC9 fire trainer from their airport and gifted it to their management ... illogical, but that's how divide preferred from non preferred members in our union. Comair's gone and ASA's code has been redistributed and is operated by their competitors. Pinnacle's acquisition came with huge pay cuts and scope which is void if they try to renegotiate their pay. ... quite a different outcome than the result of Delta's acquisitions of NWA, Pan Am, Western, et. al., where acquisition meant better pay, bidding and career opportunities. Sucks not to have a single solitary 77 seat jet on the property. (in ASA's case a 120 seat had just left the property and remained in their contract). Completely different outcomes for ALPA members.
Yet, if Delta furloughs we flow down to these airplanes. So, what then? Would a Delta pilot flying for Compass be left out of a merger? Of course not ... just seems stupid that we discriminate this way.
The Comair pilots should have bought the DC9 fire trainer from their airport and gifted it to their management ... illogical, but that's how divide preferred from non preferred members in our union. Comair's gone and ASA's code has been redistributed and is operated by their competitors. Pinnacle's acquisition came with huge pay cuts and scope which is void if they try to renegotiate their pay. ... quite a different outcome than the result of Delta's acquisitions of NWA, Pan Am, Western, et. al., where acquisition meant better pay, bidding and career opportunities. Sucks not to have a single solitary 77 seat jet on the property. (in ASA's case a 120 seat had just left the property and remained in their contract). Completely different outcomes for ALPA members.
Yet, if Delta furloughs we flow down to these airplanes. So, what then? Would a Delta pilot flying for Compass be left out of a merger? Of course not ... just seems stupid that we discriminate this way.
I mean is Delta flying 747s because ASA flies CRJ700s or does ASA fly CRJ700s because Delta flies 747s? Or did Delta decide to fly L1011s for ASA 29 years ago or did ASA decide to fly EMB-110s for Delta 29 years ago?
So is it discrimination based on how PWAs are structured or a system based on the fact that Delta Air Lines owned the place and ASA was the hired help for the little stuff?
06-30-2013 | 09:17 PM
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06-30-2013 | 09:25 PM
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The latest crew planning update for July? Basically we'd ideally like to hire for the NYC MD88, but we aren't authorized to hire so we'll just displace NYC7ERs.
06-30-2013 | 09:38 PM
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