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Old 09-04-2013 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Go on Delta Net and search "Fleet" or "Aircraft Fleet Information." You will get a handy little booklet of our fleet specifics. An even better source is Performance and Planning >> Fleet Data Sheet. This might give you a decent road map of what's likely to get parked first. I think any web board speculation is useless for what might happen in 2015. With much of the current mainline fleet having very little capital cost involved the Company can react quickly.

Depending on how the Company fills in, it looks like Slowplay's comments about Contract 2012 being a better scope deal than the old 3 for 1 above a mainline fleet of 767 could certainly be the case. Especially considering management could have used a pump and dump on us.

Thanks Dude.
Old 09-04-2013 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Now it would be interesting if some of these airplanes came out Airbus new plant in Mobile - Brookley with sub assemblies from Seattle. That facility should be making airplanes in 2015.
Airbus expected a 2016 opening. Possible some will come from there, unlikely all will.

Airbus comes to Alabama
Old 09-04-2013 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
How was anything that I said gloomy?

You're the one going "ho hum" over an Airbus order, btw...
Did not get to enter commentary ... just wait until your kid(s) get older. When you hear "I've got to poo poo" you have two choices:
- Run like your hair is on fire
- Wait 3 minutes and hear "in my pants." At that point you've become a bad father & your wife tells her friends she can't trust you with the kids while you scrape poo off of whatever it has become crusted on and do laundry.
Old 09-04-2013 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Ask yourself folks, would you want the A321/739 to pay equal to a B767-300 if it meant it could give another pilot group who does NOT have WB jets a WB argument?

IOW, if we merge with say....Alaska.....could an arbitrator consider a 737-900 the same as a B767? I mean, if Delta ALPA considers a 737-900ER equal to a 767-300ER, then what does that do for us in an arbitrated ISL situation?
Wow, this is the seed of the tree ALPA will be selling us soon.
Old 09-04-2013 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
We actually had more pilots. I was hired Jan 2001 and my initial seniority number was 112XX.
I was hired post merger in the last month of hiring 2010 and my seniority number was 122XX.

Where did all the pilots go???!!!
Old 09-04-2013 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Wow, this is the seed of the tree ALPA will be selling us soon.
Any chance you'd be willing to answer the question?
Old 09-04-2013 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Did not get to enter commentary ... just wait until your kid(s) get older. When you hear "I've got to poo poo" you have two choices:
- Run like your hair is on fire
- Wait 3 minutes and hear "in my pants." At that point you've become a bad father & your wife tells her friends she can't trust you with the kids while you scrape poo off of whatever it has become crusted on and do laundry.
Mine's still in the "in my pants" phase with no choice otherwise. He'll be walking within a week or two, though. Yikes!
Old 09-04-2013 | 10:37 AM
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With the discussion on what the A-321 pay rate should be relative to the 737-900 and/or 757...

If my memory's right prior to contract 2000 the 757 (200), 767-200, 767-300 and 767-300ER all had different hourly rates.

Before the 737-700 showed up it had a separate pay rate from the -800. IIRC it paid less than the MD-88.

I'll say it again: I'm really stoked Delta ordered aircraft, and especially that they ordered the A-321 over the 737-900.
Old 09-04-2013 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Ask yourself folks, would you want the A321/739 to pay equal to a B767-300 if it meant it could give another pilot group who does NOT have WB jets a WB argument?

IOW, if we merge with say....Alaska.....could an arbitrator consider a 737-900 the same as a B767? I mean, if Delta ALPA considers a 737-900ER equal to a 767-300ER, then what does that do for us in an arbitrated ISL situation?

If they pay the same (or more) and they bring over their own jets that will also pay that higher rate, WGAS? Are there really that many folks concerned that they may never get to the 767 fleet because they are stuck on a 737-9 even though they would pay exactly the same in your scenario?

So you are actually proposing that we should favor a lower pay rate for a given fleet on the off chance that we merge with another company that has that fleet as well, and the SL arbitrators are somehow cowed into believing that a similar pay rate makes two fleets similar in terms of desirability/QOL to pilots?

I just don't follow your logic in this case, and my answer is "Yes, I would love to see the 737-9 and A-321 pay the same as a 767."
Old 09-04-2013 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Wiley
Well said. The DPA group are an angry lot. Instead of using the processes available to cause change they are trying to re-invent the wheel.
And they haven't discovered the circle (other than in a "jerk" scenario)
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