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Old 12-07-2013 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Hey 80, I got backups.

You've got a play from an intramural flag football game.

(a cool one though at that!)
Old 12-07-2013 | 09:28 PM
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You've got a play from an intramural flag football game.

(a cool one though at that!)
Question, what are all of those faces from? Is it a cartoon or just a random drawing thing?

/not hip
Old 12-07-2013 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Urban Legend? Someone said 5 years ago that the TLV hotel was fantastic but we were kicked out because a FA went to dye her hair in the sink and stained the marble, true?
NOT urban legend. Other than the MIA/Biltmore, I've laid over at all of the other four. My understanding is the hair dye issue, if it occurred, was at the Bernini in Rome/FCO. I believe the TLV layovers were consolidated to one hotel for cost and security.

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Old 12-07-2013 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
The impression one is left with is they are cowed. I hope this is not the case, and we see some backbone.

Remember how our union accepted the mandate from the company stating Delta pilots would make PAs from the gate house to inform passengers as to the status of the flight? e.g. You're in the crew lounge and you're aware the plane is going to be an hour late, but you're supposed to go give PAs after coordinating with the GA? Not to get into that discussion again about how you'd do it anyway; the point is it was put out by the company without coordinating with our union and we took it.

Well, what kind of signal did the company get from our accepting that mandate to perform work outside the PWA?
I'm in watch and wait mode for this one. This is not the gentleman's airline I'm used to. I'm very interested to see this direct shot at violating work rules in the contract. I've seen it in the regional world, but not at this level. It made me twitch with the logic flags that the 2 hour response time raises. What if you're commuting on a transcon on another airline (no free DLnet)? Your cell phone died while driving and you don't have a charger? The list goes on. It's just not plausible. It cannot function as proposed as there are too many viable outs.

This does wreak of negotiating in public. It's far worse than the lie of "we could hire fall of 2012 if you pass C2012."

I'm very interested to see the ALPA response to this. We've had a number of times where the company dove into the gray areas of the contract and they caved... but never a direct attempt to violate the black and white in the contract.
Old 12-07-2013 | 09:42 PM
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Question, what are all of those faces from? Is it a cartoon or just a random drawing thing?

/not hip
those are "rage comic" faces.

In the interest of our new found feud, let me take the passive aggressive route.

Let me google that for you
Old 12-07-2013 | 09:47 PM
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How people from AL throw the football:



(and still win $100,000)
Old 12-07-2013 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
Got to ride on a 900 today, pretty spiffy, people laugh their a----s off at the safety video. On flare, doesn't seem like there is much to work with. [Wing loading?] Needs some mood music with the blue lights.
I love flying it. It handles better than the -800 and, IMO, lands the same. I do make sure to land on Vref and pay attention to those report card thingys we get. The pax are very happy with the back. The FAs, not so much.
Old 12-07-2013 | 10:14 PM
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I love flying it. It handles better than the -800 and, IMO, lands the same. I do make sure to land on Vref and pay attention to those report card thingys we get. The pax are very happy with the back. The FAs, not so much.
I rode on one the other day.

The entertainment is nice. It's finally on par with, say, jetBlue -- with movies that you don't have to pay for (and you shouldn't after watching as many commercials as there are).

The lavs are totally unsat. The sink is the size of some kind of camping stove -- I saw the FAs washing the lav out several times during a 3 hour flight. Water was running down the door every time I went to the bathroom. The sink is so tiny there is nowhere for the water to go but the floor or the lav door itself.

I can't imagine having to actually sit down on that toilet in the aft lav either, but that is another story.

While I could roll my luggage down the aisle of the -800 every time, not so on the -900.

The Sky interior appears to be . . . blue and orange lightbulbs.

I would love to root for the home team with the aircraft manufacturer but I must say...looking forward to the A-321s.
Old 12-07-2013 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails
I rode on one the other day.

The entertainment is nice. It's finally on par with, say, jetBlue -- with movies that you don't have to pay for (and you shouldn't after watching as many commercials as there are).

The lavs are totally unsat. The sink is the size of some kind of camping stove -- I saw the FAs washing the lav out several times during a 3 hour flight. Water was running down the door every time I went to the bathroom. The sink is so tiny there is nowhere for the water to go but the floor or the lav door itself.

I can't imagine having to actually sit down on that toilet in the aft lav either, but that is another story.

While I could roll my luggage down the aisle of the -800 every time, not so on the -900.

The Sky interior appears to be . . . blue and orange lightbulbs.

I would love to root for the home team with the aircraft manufacturer but I must say...looking forward to the A-321s.
Con, a few things.

A) you're an airline pilot so you view things a bit different then our customers do,

B) the lavs are worlds better than the -800, I've been peeing in the -800 for quite awhile,

C) my post was from a pilots perspective, not a deadheading or non-revving pilot, I'm sorry you couldn't roll it down the aisle. And we don't serve Cognac and breadsticks domestically. I intentionally don't roll mine down the aisle of any of our jets. You're a pilot, man up.

D), the 321s mission will be quite different then what DAL is utilizing the -900 for.

E) anecdotally, our customers are very impressed and, for that, I'm grateful. I'm the one standing in the door. If you don't like it, so what? DH or nonrev on something else.

Happy holidays,
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Old 12-07-2013 | 11:52 PM
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Con, a few things.

A) you're an airline pilot so you view things a bit different then our customers do,

B) the lavs are worlds better than the -800, I've been peeing in the -800 for quite awhile,

C) my post was from a pilots perspective, not a deadheading or non-revving pilot, I'm sorry you couldn't roll it down the aisle. And we don't serve Cognac and breadsticks domestically. I intentionally don't roll mine down the aisle of any of our jets. You're a pilot, man up.

D), the 321s mission will be quite different then what DAL is utilizing the -900 for.

E) anecdotally, our customers are very impressed and, for that, I'm grateful. I'm the one standing in the door. If you don't like it, so what? DH or nonrev on something else.

Happy holidays,
Buzz
Oh nothing's perfect for sure. I just thought I'd share my own mental notes on the -900 vs. the -800 and also having the other manufacturer's equivalent in mind, from having ridden on them in the back.

I do think the 3 lavs in back is a legitimate error -- having two of normal size vs. 3 tiny ones would have been the thing to do in my opinion. There was a large puddle of water on the floor of the lav an hour after takeoff, with water dripping down the door. Yikes.


I must say though, the entertainment options really were great. What is available for a fee on other airplanes, was complimentary with a good sized PTV screen on the -900. Lots of movies etc. so tough to get bored even on a longer transcon flight.
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