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Old 01-07-2014 | 06:10 AM
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I hope they charge her for the cost of the divert and Delta gets the money back,....about time some of these ridiculous fools were taught a lesson.
Old 01-07-2014 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential

I'm always amazed at how people with money assume that now they also have class. They way they treat our crews sometimes... I hope they throw the book at this nut job. People with that much money and that little sense should spend their money staying out of public places.
Old 01-07-2014 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by p3flteng
I hope they charge her for the cost of the divert and Delta gets the money back,....about time some of these ridiculous fools were taught a lesson.
I'll add one...

Charge her the full cost of the divert, PLUS compensate each passenger inconvenienced with a nice dinner and a movie (approx. 150 euro each.) Find out if any pax missed a connection/meeting and compensate for that too.
Old 01-07-2014 | 06:40 AM
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My guess is a change to our PWA to fit the new FARs with nothing in return. Cost neutral is their addiction we have enabled them for years. Wouldn't surprise me if they proposed to change our PWA to fit their needs with a 1% reduction in DC money and another cut of our profit sharing to pay for all the money it cost them to bother to negotiate.


Originally Posted by RetiredFTS
What is the company asking for?
Old 01-07-2014 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
I got to laugh at the fact its being held in a pub. In Ireland of all places.
Old 01-07-2014 | 07:02 AM
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Link to a King Air 200 crash video that brought back memories of the B-52 knife edge crash a few years ago.

LiveLeak.com - Plane crashes into dragstrip at Akureyri, Iceland August 5 2013
Old 01-07-2014 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You heard correctly on what we are asking for.
OK great, but what are we asking for WRT long call reserve leash times? Cause 2 hours ain't gonna work. As it stands now LC is 19 hours, plus we still have the contractual 3 hours prior acknowledgement obligation and nothing more. Assuming we agree to provide relief for that, what will the LC leash end up being? What will the earliest SC a pilot can get on day one end up being after all this? Will we have any "mandatory schedule checks" on a day off like before? Until all that is fixed, there should be no piggy bank approach for a company wide payoff especially when its the reserve pilots that are doing all the work on the front lines with this mess.
Old 01-07-2014 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
OK great, but what are we asking for WRT long call reserve leash times? Cause 2 hours ain't gonna work. As it stands now LC is 19 hours, plus we still have the contractual 3 hours prior acknowledgement obligation and nothing more. Assuming we agree to provide relief for that, what will the LC leash end up being? What will the earliest SC a pilot can get on day one end up being after all this? Will we have any "mandatory schedule checks" on a day off like before? Until all that is fixed, there should be no piggy bank approach for a company wide payoff especially when its the reserve pilots that are doing all the work on the front lines with this mess.
Don't hang your hat on believing that reserves will see much of anything separate from regular line holders. Delta has always been a Captain/regular line holder airline. I don't see it changing with this negotiation. (And I'm a very junior reserve)

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Old 01-07-2014 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
OBWS's are awarded anytime in the manual coverage process. That is anytime after the 7 am window the day prior. In the coverage ladder they fall after in base reserves but before any premium flying.
OBWS fall after in base long call pilots. OBWS goes ahead of in base short call pilots.
Old 01-07-2014 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Sounds like a future captain who will make his pre departure PA standing in the cabin to describe the 45 min flight to the pax, then make a climb out PA, a cruise PA, an arrival PA, most of which end in "welcome aboard." Then shut down the remaining engine as he makes final brake application with his right hand on the fuel switch before the FO can get to it just to save that extra .002 sec of fuel.
GMAB. You sound like the guy who picks up flying for free, sits in uniform on his days off in ATL just in case they call him in to work for free on your day off. Then you can make a gate house PA with your hat on telling everyone how much you helped Delta out by flying for free. Probably have at least one family photo of you in uniform as well.

I was simply saying that guys who YS on days off do it for free. How you go from that statement to what you wrote I have no idea.
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