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Old 01-06-2014 | 06:39 PM
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Now the out of base WS's are taking trips when they are out of reserves. I get the normal WS's......senior guys can do what they want. These out of base WS's......shouldn't happen.
Old 01-06-2014 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Got one better, Had a GSWC in on Friday night in JFK that would have gotten me home a day earlier and it went instead to a reserve who put in a yellow slip.
The chance you would have gotten it as a gswc is virtually nil....that fact notwithstanding, how about you bid the way you want to bid, and let everyone else bid the way deem best for them...that work for you chief? gmafb!
Old 01-06-2014 | 06:53 PM
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So no SC's for 2 days now in SLC. They have 5 LC pilots for tomorrow and didn't assign any SC. Can't figure out how that helps with 117. Everything has been covered with GS, WS, and out of base WS the past 2 days except 1 trip.
Old 01-06-2014 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Seaslap8
The chance you would have gotten it as a gswc is virtually nil....that fact notwithstanding, how about you bid the way you want to bid, and let everyone else bid the way deem best for them...that work for you chief? gmafb!
Go easy on him. People on here harp on guys for even putting in GS's because if none of us did it then we would hire more. Then when everything melts down everyone throws in WS's, YS's, and out of base WS's. That's even worse because now the trips get covered for straight pay (free if a YS on an X day) when they would have been covered by GS's at premium pay.

While I agree a GSWC is rare, they do happen. I've done 2 and been here 7 years. Both in scenarios just like we are in now. When the robo calls for IA's go out the next option they have is GSWC or cancel the trip.

Letting guys out of base WS is BS because they shouldn't be able to take a trip out of a base they cannot bid into in the first place. They should be able to out of base GS because then everyone else in base has at least had a shot at the trip for straight pay and premium pay.
Old 01-06-2014 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ilinipilot
I also heard from a very good source that we are asking for door pay and an increase in ADG. Since I heard this I think its important for every pilot to back ALPA on this one. DO NOT acknowledge a trip until 3 hours prior and then ask for your FAR 117 mandated rest. That is how we can get some much needed leverage back
From what I have heard that is not everything that DALPA is seeking.
Old 01-06-2014 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Go easy on him. People on here harp on guys for even putting in GS's because if none of us did it then we would hire more. Then when everything melts down everyone throws in WS's, YS's, and out of base WS's. That's even worse because now the trips get covered for straight pay (free if a YS on an X day) when they would have been covered by GS's at premium pay.

While I agree a GSWC is rare, they do happen. I've done 2 and been here 7 years. Both in scenarios just like we are in now. When the robo calls for IA's go out the next option they have is GSWC or cancel the trip.

Letting guys out of base WS is BS because they shouldn't be able to take a trip out of a base they cannot bid into in the first place. They should be able to out of base GS because then everyone else in base has at least had a shot at the trip for straight pay and premium pay.
I don't understand why you didn't get the trip. It's my understanding that out of base white slips go out only if the trip is inside of 12 hours and only if no reserve has a YS in or a regular pilot has a WS in for it.

From what I was told, basically the only people the out of base white slips beat out are short call pilots.

I tried to out of base white slip a few months this year and found out that they weren't nearly as easy to get as I thought they would be.
Old 01-06-2014 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
It's my understanding that out of base white slips go out only if the trip is inside of 12 hours and only if no reserve has a YS in or a regular pilot has a WS in for it.
They can go out as early as 0800 the day prior to report. Other than that, you're exactly right.
Old 01-06-2014 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
They can go out as early as 0800 the day prior to report. Other than that, you're exactly right.

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Old 01-06-2014 | 07:50 PM
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Old 01-06-2014 | 07:53 PM
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