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Old 01-07-2014, 11:40 AM
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Good cheap entertainment: Stand by a full trash can / compactor in T2 at JFK.

Some people come up and are already resigned from cancelled flight after canceled flight - producing a look like, "Even the trash can won't take me."

Others come up and ask after pushing at the door, "What is this thing?"

The most entertaining are those that have reached the boiling point and start shaking the can like a pinball machine as they mutter to themselves.
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
So does this also applies to the 330 4 man trips over 12+01?

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No. FRMS is approved for only the 777.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Hey guys, brief break in the 117 discussion.

I sent in my sick leave verification form all filled out and signed by my doc but my sick leave account still shows "unverified." Does it take awhile for them to process the forms? And, if not, who should I talk to?

Thanks!
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I'm sure I'm late to the game on this, but I thought we didn't have to verify our sick time until we were over 100 hrs and or 10 days? Is this something new or are you over 100 hrs sick?
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I'm trying to figure that out, because the same thing is going on in NYC.

From what I'm seeing, my best guess is that they are figuring that for now, until they figure out how 117 is really going to play out, on good weather days, it's best to sparingly assign and use SC pilots and just give out greens slips -- at least more than they used to.

Who is going to turn down a GS on a great sunny day, as opposed to having to fight to get to it through the snow and cold and overbooked flight?

That way they can save more SC's for bad weather days.

Just a guess. But, I think it means they are short and really worried about 117 and the summer.
Maybe the guys being assigned SC are doing what dash8widget said a few days ago and acknowledging the SC late. Then they are unusable for SC? Leverage generator.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I disagree with that as a simple characterization.

Reserve pilots are the group that is bringing the company to the negotiating table, but 117 is a gigantic QOL hit for lineholders too.

(I know tiniest fiddle playing for me) In my category, almost every trip was worth 8+ hours per 24hrs away from base. It is now about 6. That's a pretty significant QOL hit. I am sure in other categories they are affected in a similar way.

What any of this has to do with a pilot who couldn't do a stall recovery is beyond me.
Ah but reserve pilots take a double hit then, because after absorbing the front line assault of contractual abrogation by memo, they then get to enjoy the same degredated trips as well. I'm just saying that the fulcrum here is reserve notification and leash issues, and the fix needs to address that first and foremost. If we can pile on for other things, great, but we can't use this as a source to "fund" anything else unless the issues causing it are fixed first.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Other empires? We all work for the same Death Star... I hope they don't completely pickle reserve QOL, but there are many issues that need addressing...
Of course there are many issues that need addressing. But this particular issue needs to first and foremost stop the insanity of a 2 hour leash by memo. We can't end up with reserve QOL less than is already was before and then act like we have capital to throw at other situations. Fix the reserve issues that this has caused first, and then we can talk about any leftover capital to spend elsewhere.

Long call is now 19 hours and nothing on day one before noon. The only problem is we have to lose pay, grieve it and be hassled with carpet dances for standing up for our own contract. I worry we could end up compromising on this in a way that reduces QOL for reserve and throws money elsewhere, perhaps in ways completely unrelated to 117. We can't expect reserves to throw themselves into the grievance machine only later to find out they were fighting for double pay trip parking buddy bid touch drop scams for an elite few.

Likewise, if the company tries to play games with long haul rest facilities, domestic narrowbody pilots shouldn't expect a payday from that either. Reserve issues need to address reserve issues, rest facility issues need to benefit that, etc.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
You weren't sick enough. You are under investigation.
Flight Ops has their top guy on it.

Now turn your head and cough.

LMAO.

I'm also still waiting for my hall pass so I can go to the bathroom.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Harley
I'm sure I'm late to the game on this, but I thought we didn't have to verify our sick time until we were over 100 hrs and or 10 days? Is this something new or are you over 100 hrs sick?
No, a) just checking out the system and, b) trying to not reach 100 hours of unverified. I had a minor surgical thing done to my arm and I wanted to see how my doc/Delta would process the silly thing.
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Old 01-07-2014, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
No, a) just checking out the system and, b) trying to not reach 100 hours of unverified. I had a minor surgical thing done to my arm and I wanted to see how my doc/Delta would process the silly thing.
"Tis but a scratch."
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Old 01-07-2014, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
No, a) just checking out the system and, b) trying to not reach 100 hours of unverified. I had a minor surgical thing done to my arm and I wanted to see how my doc/Delta would process the silly thing.
I did the same thing last time I was sick just to see how the system worked. It took a few days after I called in well to see it as verified in I-crew.
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