Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1568861)

Scambo,

For the EWR-CDG, I get:

FDP = 1:30 brief + 7:30 block = 9:00
Flight time = 6:50
Time available for breaks = 5:20 (:30 to TOC, back in your seat 1:00 before landing)
Time required for PF = 2:00
Time available to be split between PM and relief = 3:20
Time required for PM = 1:30 (this is met)
You can give both the PM and RP 1:40.

FDP midpoint is 4:30 before block-in, 4:20 before landing. The FP break must start NET 4:20 before landing. Take out 1 hour where everyone must be back in their seat. That leaves 3:20 between the earliest start of the PF break, and the end of the 3rd break.

If the FP complies with the "2:00 in the 2nd 1/2 of FDP" requirement, that leaves, at most, 1:20 for a 3rd break. Therefore, that pilot cannot be the PM, who requires 1:30.

Assuming you want to meet the requirements of the FAR for augmented crews, and the FOM, I think you have to move the FP to 3rd break for these shorter flights.

At 7:30 Flight Time, your FDP should be ~ 9:40 (1:30 briefing + :30 taxi-out + :10 taxi-in). At that point, you can give 2:00 to everyone. Your mid-point on the FDP is 4:50 before block-in, 4:40 before landing, so you have 3:30 between the mid-point, and TOD. So you can't give 2:00 to everyone as a single block.

So 7:30 FT is a milestone where you can treat everyone the same, but you still have to have the FP on 3rd break to meet all requirements.

Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1568981)

The 80's were the best. Nice to see a familiar face at the end : )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eduNjwNvcH4

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1569004)

I was there, the 1980s hair styles, clothes and Disco music SUCKED!

Give me 1968, a Z28, Jimmy Hendrix and Led Zeppelin any day! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKRSgjqZB_c

Oh, and Johnny Cash, Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass! ;)

And Pete Seeger, RIP.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1569004)

I was there, the 1980s hair styles, clothes and Disco music SUCKED!

Give me 1968, a Z28, Jimmy Hendrix and Led Zeppelin any day! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKRSgjqZB_c

Oh, and Johnny Cash, Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass! ;)

And Pete Seeger, RIP.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1569030)

The music from the 2000's had some high points in it.

http://www.nutzworld.com/img/KatyPer...D4B5/image.png

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1568900)

That's what happens when all the northerners go "I drove in this stuff all the time up north, I'm going to show them!"

Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 1569106)

Why do the authorities tell everybody to "hunker down"? It's hard enough driving on ice while seated in a normal position. :confused:

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1569117)

It was in the 70s here today. :)