Get it through your thick head... I'm not trying to refute it. I agree with you. But that doesn't change the fact that the agreement was sold to us that way by DALPA. I didn't buy it. You apparently didn't buy it either. Good for us!

Ditto... We were told our vote would have an impact on whether the 717 was coming. That is all.

Scary plan b was to furlough to Timbo minus 1.

Kinda like the SWA/AT negotiation.

DL's feed was just bad business. 50 seaters every hour to every city. That era is over. There is PLENTY of regional capacity and 717 capacity coming online to rationally provide feed going forward.

So now that we have red shirts (you know the reference) on the property, are you gonna say nuts to any furlough threat in the upcoming contract? I mean, DAL is making buckets of money, everybody loves us from an investment POV... maybe it is time to call the company's bluff on that. Can we live with any fallout as a result?

Nope on scope. Pay me more and give me more time off. To hell with the rest. We either are or are not gonna get any more "bigger". If we do we do, if we don't we don't. It is a management decision. Kind of like SWA/AT negotiations only in reverse this time.. ;)


This is fun.

Talk is cheap.:rolleyes:

I already told 88driver that I want more money and more time off. I don't care about any of the rest. I will vote yes for that, and no for any kind of reduction or anything that doesn't mean a return to restoration.... ;) Last time I voted for scope. this time I am voting for my retirement.

Here's an article that some of you might find interesting. It goes into what the refinery means to us a little.....

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Interesting. I think Trainer was a good low cost gamble even if it failed to live up to expectations. I doubt any facilities like Trainer will go as cheap in the future.

Yeah, I think all in we are in it for $250 million. The next lowest cost refinery is in the $1 Billion neighborhood, and it needs a lot of work to be brought up to speed.... Trainer is living up to expectations as far as I know. It was never meant to be a profit center, but rather to give us better control of our fuel costs. It is really amazing how much we spend on fuel. Every $.01 in cost is a huge number to the bottom line.

The nice thing is that we have the shell corporation-- Monroe-- in place so if something does become available, we can jump on it. As the only airline with that sort of buffer against price spikes, we are unique among our peers, at least in this country...