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Old 02-27-2014 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
I heard from a good source that they were close to getting an agreement; possibly something by the end of the month, but here we are and I haven't seen anything. It could be making the rounds before something is officially announced, or they're not as close as they thought they were. It was also said that a package deal was what was being considered and our side didn't want to break up the package, whereas the other side was trying to get things piecemeal.
I hope DALPA holds out for a solid agreement, I could get used to a green slip every month.
Old 02-27-2014 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I don't know exactly how many are on the list now. We will however be adding just over 100 airframes over your time span so i would expect 1200 to 1400 additional pilots.
How big is Alaskan?
Old 02-27-2014 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I don't know exactly how many are on the list now. We will however be adding just over 100 airframes over your time span so i would expect 1200 to 1400 additional pilots.
It looks like APC is showing 11,723 active pilots (not sure how accurate that is). So with 1400 more bodies on the property that would be 13,123. Delta Air Lines | AirlinePilotCentral.com
Old 02-27-2014 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Reroute
It's not a prediction, it's an SEC filing.
Ok.

We also have 18 787s commitments in our SEC filings, is Delta not allowed to cancel those or because they put it in an SEC filing they're obligated to take those jets?
Old 02-27-2014 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
How big is Alaskan?
Showing 1472 here. Alaska Airlines | AirlinePilotCentral.com
Old 02-27-2014 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley
It looks like APC is showing 11,723 active pilots (not sure how accurate that is). So with 1400 more bodies on the property that would be 13,123. Delta Air Lines | AirlinePilotCentral.com
The number is close to accurate but a little higher than the last published seniority list which pegged it at 11,620.

About 900-1,000 or so don't actively get awarded a line or sit reserve whether it is because they're out on sick leave, military leave, instructor pilots or supervisors.

So about 10,500-10,600ish "fly the line" every month. Over the past year that number had a net increase of about 51 guys, a net increase in jets of about 11 from 2013. The totals show 717 jets in January of last year and 740 now, minus the 9s.

I know sailing mentions 400 new Captains I guess in the past year or so, it's 170 because of the net change. We had a net loss in WB Captains but a gain in NB Captains funded by both the WB Captain and FOs.

As to 800 aircraft... what are they for? I remember RA was adamant about not getting more 90s until we had a reason to get them, so if we are indeed going by 120-130 jets to around 840? where they going? I mean DCI is shrinking approx 5,500 seats and we're going to grow by 15,000 or 12% over the next 4 years or 2% system wide YOY?

Bring it on.... but I'll believe it when I see it. There's no such thing as a growth jet until you can look back and verify it was a growth jet. If the economy stumbles they're going to have so much margin to cut mainline with out BH ratios and I'm not buying the economy is going to allow that kind of organic growth.



I think this has a lot to do with celebrating TA2012, because it ignores our business model unless we're going to take over SEA. That'd be cool. Then we of course could just merge with Alaska, and not need to grow at all, possibly... say it with me... shrink.
Old 02-27-2014 | 06:48 PM
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Sorry to change the subject, but I just got an Alpa comm email and reading the headline on my IPhone, I read "JetBlue Election Update, all about the Money...".

Someone needs to proof read these headlines better, lest someone not like myself, might accuse ALPA of chasing revenues at the expense of representing its current dues paying membership.

Opening the email reveals that it is two different headers but out of context I laughed at the thought crossing my mind initially.

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Old 02-27-2014 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The 900 has better tail clearance then the 800. Things must be really bad at UAL.
Actually, the opposite is true, the tail clearance for the 900 is a bit tighter in relation to tail-strike clearance ...nonetheless, it is difficult to believe that 100% of UAL -900s have suffered a tail-strike.
Old 02-27-2014 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomerglideslope
Actually, the opposite is true, the tail clearance for the 900 is a bit tighter in relation to tail-strike clearance ...nonetheless, it is difficult to believe that 100% of UAL -900s have suffered a tail-strike.
Tail striking a 100 airplanes would be mind boggling hard imho. BTW, looking through avhearld I noticed we have a few of our own and 767s and 744s around the globe like to drag their tails.

But this was the only UCAL 739 strike listed going back to 09, maybe they had more when the jets were new in the early 2000s...

Incident: United B739 at Chicago on Mar 1st 2013, tail strike on landing
Old 02-27-2014 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
So the Company deliberately awarded pilots positions on the previous AE that won't even go to training until after summer, and now the current AE is going to award even more 7ER slots that wouldn't train until late fall?

They are going to waste usable line pilots that they really NEED on the narrowbody fleet now just to fill seats that they will empty before they even get online to generate revenue?

So are you saying the same Company that delayed hiring just to squeeze an extra million out of 2103 Q1 profit is going to waste hundreds of thousands (maybe a million?) just to displace?

That math doesn't work.
Most of the conversions on the last bid are April thru July for the ER. This bid has all conversions by Aug 31 bid period.
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