I've been a junior Captain for my 10yrs as a cappy... I've regularly averaged 6+ GS's/yr (last year, 12!)... it's all about bidding strategies (I'd tell you mine, but then I'd have to kill you!).

Again, mark me as a no way for 1.5 over 80. (or 1.5 over anything for that matter)

And just how do you quantify that? How would the negotiating committee decide how much the pilot group "needs" to fly only 80 hours? This is the argument I referred to in the above post. It is complete hooey. The rate that might allow you the luxury of staying home with an 80 hour month will probably not be enough for many others. And even if it is, many of those guys will see a bigger paycheck at the end of the month and go... "cool... now I am making a LOT more money, and not working any harder than I have been". IOW, it is unobtanium. Retiring early is the exact same argument. Some will.. but most will not if they can keep flying.

I agree with most of your other suggestions though....

And then they complain about how long they've been stuck in the right seat.

If the company is worried about too many 60Ps going "semi-retired" (like I plan to do), then maybe they should seriously think about 1.5 X 50 or 60. I'd rather keep GSs than set the multiplier at 80.

Couple hours on the ground in Monrovia and you think you'll catch Ebola?:rolleyes:

Well said. In my conversations and open ears around the system, guys are flying as much as they can. We have been conditioned to work more, and sentiment I have heard loud and clear from junior, senior, jump seaters is that they will work a lot no matter the rate. They say that they will do it smartly utilizing greenslips, but when the company gets staffing somewhat under control and those g/s dry up, out will come the straight rate pick ups.

Point taken and bullet adjusted!

I put a subjective goal in an objective document, I stand corrected.

I liked all your other suggestions, but will never vote for this. I have used OOBWS to greatly improve my QOL for the last 2yrs. I have absolutely no desire to give up this powerful tool. In fact, I would like to see the pre-bankruptcy ladder that put OOBWS before next day, non-YS, reserves.

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Eliminating OOBWS will mostly result in reserves flying more. Every time I pass up an OOBWS they just end up assigning the rotation to a reserve pilot. I'm sure it prevents a GS now and then but it mostly prevents a reserve guy from having to come in and fly for free.

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