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Bluto 04-19-2014 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1625921)
Ruh roh!! Hope whatever it was gt worked out:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/securi...000910753.html

The real news in this story is that we flew a 737 flight with 9 empty seats!

SierraWhiskey 04-19-2014 05:51 AM

Stupid question for those of you with higher math skills! Do you audit your pay stubs? If so, can you explain to me what I'm missing when I add up my (Pretax Ins & 401K + Taxes + Deductions) - (Gross Earnings) = Does not equal my direct deposit. What am I missing? Thanks in advance.

Check Essential 04-19-2014 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 1626036)
We need to stand up for the contract and not let a policy memo change our PWA.

Normally that would be the union's job.
Under "constructive engagement" apparently not.

sailingfun 04-19-2014 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1626060)
Normally that would be the union's job.
Under "constructive engagement" apparently not.

I guess you missed all the letters put out on the subject. They are going to protect all the pilots involved. A choice was made that the fastest way to get the pilots paid was through the 117 negotiations. If there is not a successful outcome to that then a grievance will be filed around 1 May. We should prevail in that but it's not a slam dunk. If we win the grievance then long call reserve ceases to exist at Delta and they will have to use short calls and massive reroutes to cover the flying. If we lose the companies interpretation becomes law.

Check Essential 04-19-2014 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1626065)
If there is not a successful outcome to that then a grievance will be filed around 1 May. We should prevail in that but it's not a slam dunk. .

That's the first I've heard of a May 1 deadline. Good to know.
I think contract law is pretty clear on the subject. We will no longer have a long call. The company will just have to cover their trips with short calls, green slips and reroutes.

CheapTrick 04-19-2014 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1626029)
Tear tattoos? Might want to read up on what they usually mean.

"Originally placed in prison to signify that the bearer was owned by a fellow prisoner. In prison terms "there *****." (sic) The tear drop signifies that pain and humiliation one would feel after being "turned out" in prison. The tattoo is placed on the face to further humiliate the victim and mark them in a place where they could not cover the mark." Urban Dictionary

I vote against tattoo tears. Fanny packs... not so much. We could chew on tooth pics since they don't make candy cigarettes anymore.

sailingfun 04-19-2014 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1626067)
That's the first I've heard of a May 1 deadline. Good to know.
I think contract law is pretty clear on the subject. We will no longer have a long call. The company will just have to cover their trips with short calls, green slips and reroutes.

The deadline is driven by the contractual requirements in filing a grievance.

sailingfun 04-19-2014 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1626067)
That's the first I've heard of a May 1 deadline. Good to know.
I think contract law is pretty clear on the subject. We will no longer have a long call. The company will just have to cover their trips with short calls, green slips and reroutes.

If we win long call would exist only on a strictly volunteer basis. The company lawyers feel they have grounds to prevail. I don't feel that is the case but there is a chance they could win. Call your reps for details.

tsquare 04-19-2014 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1626065)
If we win the grievance then long call reserve ceases to exist at Delta and they will have to use short calls and massive reroutes to cover the flying. If we lose the companies interpretation becomes law.

This is starting to sound like a case of "be careful what you ask for". If what you say is true, then our reserve will be like American's, meaning all reserves are on short call. That sucks. period.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1626079)
If we win long call would exist only on a strictly volunteer basis. The company lawyers feel they have grounds to prevail. I don't feel that is the case but there is a chance they could win. Call your reps for details.

Who would then be the "volunteer"? The pilot, or the company?

RonRicco 04-19-2014 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1626079)
If we win long call would exist only on a strictly volunteer basis. The company lawyers feel they have grounds to prevail. I don't feel that is the case but there is a chance they could win. Call your reps for details.

And I have been around long enough to know that because something appears to be a slam dunk, it doesn't mean it will turn out that way. One only has to look back at a couple of our vacation grievances, AA's hard clad language with regard to their seniority list vs American Eagle flying as examples.

It seems like a lot of the neutrals tend to avoid extreme decisions in cases like these and I could see him splitting the baby somehow. An example would be the furlough grievance. Yes, they had to recall but only 10 a month.


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