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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1647133)
Just to make DAL88 wrong, I'll sleep all day on post on here when I'm in the hotel. :D
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Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1647135)
That, my friend, is dedication. :D
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Originally Posted by TheManager
(Post 1647134)
Well, if the turtle heading starts at altitude, don't forget to do the magic carpet ride :D
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I talked to my rep and he said they can create these pairings with out restrictions. And there is no limit on them. So there Is nothing to stop the company from classifying the normal one leg out and back a stand up. If duty time allows. More scary is this.
A normal call out to cover for a late night departure to sav etc that loses its crew for various reasons, mtc,atc,117 duty. Now the company can call someone out for the trip to cover the leg. And they can deadhead them home on the first leg, calling it a stand up.Thus paying 730 with pay no credit. Your green slip you get is now worth 5 hours less. There are many avenues this can go it can get very bad for us. I am worried the more I think about it |
WRT Split-Duty:
In addition to reducing the need for positioning of crews (DH or 30+ hr layovers), CDO's are also a tool for maintaining schedule integrity. Last RJ flight out to XYZ could go laaaaaatttte, and first flight back would be unaffected. You (88/717/319) are now doing a lot of those late/early XYZ flights...... At my bottom feeder, under our old contract, CDO's went VERY junior. Under our current contract, VERY senior. Duty rigs make them very high paying for little work and they are very popular with commuters/ folks with other gigs. 117 has actually made them a little less attractive to some (117 reduced the max duty time allowable = less duty rig pay per CDO). IIRC, we now schedule 3:30 of "rest" with an additional period tacked on to account for the entire period spent on the ground (4-9 hrs). That way, if there is a delay, the crew must get the "scheduled" rest, but the remainder is disposable. I hated CDOs. They do not agree with me in any way, regardless of credit or days off. When they went junior it was a problem, because they got dumped on the junior people (ie: me) Now that they go senior, it is rarely a problem. Generally, the people doing Split-Duties are the ones who want them. The devil is in the details. And what if FAR 117 is replaced by FAR 118? What is in your CBA/PWA and what relies on the regulation to protect you? Be wary of backstopping your pay and/ or QOL with the FARs. This is a slippery slope. |
Originally Posted by ilinipilot
(Post 1647148)
I talked to my rep and he said they can create these pairings with out restrictions. And there is no limit on them. So there Is nothing to stop the company from classifying the normal one leg out and back a stand up. If duty time allows. More scary is this.
A normal call out to cover for a late night departure to sav etc that loses its crew for various reasons, mtc,atc,117 duty. Now the company can call someone out for the trip to cover the leg. And they can deadhead them home on the first leg, calling it a stand up.Thus paying 730 with pay no credit. Your green slip you get is now worth 5 hours less. There are many avenues this can go it can get very bad for us. I am worried the more I think about it |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1647122)
9E (Endeavor) ALPA is negotiating with DL mgmt again. Unclear whether they did the courtesy of giving a nod to DALPA this time or not...
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Is anybody else's DLnet log on taking them to the corporate page as home instead of the flight ops page? Or did I just get promoted? :)
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1647158)
Is anybody else's DLnet log on taking them to the corporate page as home instead of the flight ops page? Or did I just get promoted? :)
It took me a while to find the flight ops tab on the left. I guess I'm not cut out for management. :) |
Now it says Deltanet is unavailable. I guess I REALLY screwed it up now. :D
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