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Purple Drank 05-19-2014 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1647059)

The trips have just been awful since 117 implementation. I see that as a potential positive of allowing them.

I think at least equally to blame is the delay in hiring, and leaner manning.

The company just doesn't have the manning to permit QOL parameters in the trip mix, especially in NB cats.

Justdoinmyjob 05-19-2014 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1647018)
To each their own, really. A trip with 3 or 4 630am sign-ins is very fatiguing for me. A trip with all late flying that ends at 2-3 in the morning kills other people and is absolutely ideal for me.

See, I'd fly a 4 day with 0630 sign ins and be in the hotel in the early afternoon and be happier than a SWA pilot with a new batch of kittens.

I'm like that old US Army commercial: I like to get more done before 9am than most people do all day.

80ktsClamp 05-19-2014 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1647067)
See, I'd fly a 4 day with 0630 sign ins and be in the hotel in the early afternoon and be happier than a SWA pilot with a new batch of kittens.

I'm like that old US Army commercial: I like to get more done before 9am than most people do all day.

And I get more done between 1400 and 1700 than most people do in a full day. :)

tsquare 05-19-2014 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1647058)
Chasing more political windmills?:D

I like the new T...


:) I just have never believed in a manning formula. I guess it could exist, but the changes to it require such magnitude differences in the status quo so as to render it completely impotent.

Splash 05-19-2014 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Superdad (Post 1646994)
Sorry for the topic change but I cannot find any reference to jury duty in the PWA. I already have a trip on the days that I have been summoned, what happens to that trip?

"Jury duty" didn't cover it.

If you're called as a witness or subpoenaed, you're treated the same as Jury duty.

newKnow 05-19-2014 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Starcheck102 (Post 1646817)
Really? Name one concession.

Wait a minute. Huh? :D

newKnow 05-19-2014 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1646989)
I won't go that far. Some people legitimately do like them, and there can be a niche for them if appropriately restricted. I really don't like the 30 hour layovers and the upturn of sleep cycle involved in converting to the early early morning with a very long day at the end of the 30 hours.

The only thing is, even if some people like them, I wish they had waited to bring them to us after enough people had gone on record in a survey, for the upcoming contract, or something.

Don't just spring them on us, with no warning. I never knew they were being considered. I bet a lot of other people didn't know either.

This is a big change to the way a lot of us could fly and it could sneak in with a majority vote because it's attached to a lot of other goodies.

They should have left this one on the table until the next contract.

Hrkdrivr 05-19-2014 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1647061)
Yes.

Or as one of the forum's most frequent posters refers to it: "memory rat." :D

That one almost threw me off the trail... :rolleyes:

Schwanker 05-19-2014 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1647070)
And I get more done between 1400 and 1700 than most people do in a full day. :)

Well on many days....
I don't do $hit all day, and it shows:D

TeddyKGB 05-19-2014 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 1647102)
Well on many days....
I don't do $hit all day, and it shows:D

I often have nothing to do and all day to do it.


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