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Originally Posted by JungleBus http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
I've done several months worth of CDOs at Compass. They sucked then, and I say that as someone who flew them in his 20s, who is a night owl and has always been able to sleep on command. I found myself flying into MSP a few times with the sun coming up and me slapping myself to stay awake, praying to God that the weather and mx stayed ok. The CAs I flew them with, and the FOs I flew them with after I upgraded, were either too junior to hold anything else, or had kids or businesses on the side that took up their time during the day. One of them would later die in a road accident the day after a string of CDOs; it's believed he fell asleep at the wheel
Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
(Post 1648981)
Everyone here needs to reread this... twice.
One another Gem Pinnacle Management attempted to force down our throats.....tagging and out/back after the return leg to base. Think about THAT. If you don't think DAL would do it you are living in a fantasy land. As long as it's under the 14 hour limit standby for a reroute. I won't friggen do it. PERIOD. Even if it meant no longer working at DAL. There are other things out there that pay more and won't kill you. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1649030)
C20 passed their resolution directing their Reps to pursue CDO's. When someone notices they got what they asked for, Ken Watts goes on the warpath against former Delta pilots and says "it's political" ?
What? Why? |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1649030)
C20 passed their resolution directing their Reps to pursue CDO's. When someone notices they got what they asked for, Ken Watts goes on the warpath against former Delta pilots and says "it's political" ?
What? Why? Carl |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1649044)
Please post any evidence whatsoever of Ken Watts doing or saying what you've alleged.
Carl
Originally Posted by Ken Watts
One thing that has been bothering me about the whole "passed in Council 20" four years ago thing...when a resolution goes from a local council to the MEC and is then passed, it becomes an MEC resolution, not an LEC resolution. It would seem this is an attempt to discredit Council 20 by identifying them with, what is now, an unpopular resolution by some. I have no problem with Curly et al posting the resolution but I think it should have been the MEC version. They even had the names of the Council 20 pilots who moved and seconded it when, in fact, the MEC took ownership of the resolution. There should be MEC members names who moved and seconded it from the MEC Working Committee that considered it. It is an MEC resolution and they should own it.
Knock it off with the politics and focus on our careers. Just my opinion. Respectfully, |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1649050)
I tried to edit my post before you caught it. But since you asked.
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 1648975)
I understand how the company doesn't want to pay ADG for a 30 hr layover.
With all due respect. I appreciate your comment but find it absolutely absurd. I believe we should get at least 6 hrs EVERY single calendar day we are on the company clock. EVERY SINGLE ONE! We are on duty. Not flight duty as you might consider but away from home on company business. It's not my job to figure a way to schedule us efficiently. If it got too expensive I am confident Delta would find a way to get me out of that 30 hour layover ie. DH me out, adjust flight schedules. I don't care what it costs Delta. Again, not my job or responsibility. Pay me for MY time. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1649050)
I tried to edit my post before you caught it. But since you asked.
Originally Posted by Ken Watts One thing that has been bothering me about the whole "passed in Council 20" four years ago thing...when a resolution goes from a local council to the MEC and is then passed, it becomes an MEC resolution, not an LEC resolution. It would seem this is an attempt to discredit Council 20 by identifying them with, what is now, an unpopular resolution by some. I have no problem with Curly et al posting the resolution but I think it should have been the MEC version. They even had the names of the Council 20 pilots who moved and seconded it when, in fact, the MEC took ownership of the resolution. There should be MEC members names who moved and seconded it from the MEC Working Committee that considered it. It is an MEC resolution and they should own it. Knock it off with the politics and focus on our careers. Just my opinion. Respectfully, Ken Watts When will you stop going on the warpath against your former NWA brothers Bar? Ever?
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1649030)
C20 passed their resolution directing their Reps to pursue CDO's. When someone notices they got what they asked for, Ken Watts goes on the warpath against former Delta pilots and says "it's political" ?
What? Why? |
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 1648975)
I understand how the company doesn't want to pay ADG for a 30 hr layover.
With all due respect. I appreciate your comment but find it absolutely absurd. I believe we should get at least 6 hrs EVERY single calendar day we are on the company clock. EVERY SINGLE ONE! We are on duty. Not flight duty as you might consider but away from home on company business. It's not my job to figure a way to schedule us efficiently. If it got too expensive I am confident Delta would find a way to get me out of that 30 hour layover ie. DH me out, adjust flight schedules. I don't care what it costs Delta. Again, not my job or responsibility. Pay me for MY time. It puts us that much closer to asking for the 6:00 in 11 months! Is it easier to go from 4:30 up to 6:00 OR to go from 5:15 to 6:00? |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1649030)
C20 passed their resolution directing their Reps to pursue CDO's. When someone notices they got what they asked for, Ken Watts goes on the warpath against former Delta pilots and says "it's political" ?
What? Why? Your definition of "warpath" is wanting. I interpreted KW's post as we all own the resolution after the MEC passes it. Tr |
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