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I get that! That's why my criteria for allowing them here is restricted enough and paid enough that there are few of them to be only done by the senior crazies that want them.

I think they may have the pay thing down, but it's sounding like there may not be enough restrictions in creating a pile of them.

I can't remember, did I say we need to see the language? :)

Everyone has said that. I can't wait.

I also hope DALPA posts information on why they accepted or went after particular items in the TA. That would be a smart move on their part. :rolleyes:

80ktsClamp

05-19-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1647194)

I sense an ulterior motive. What do you want? Weekends off? 777 captain? Superpilot to post pics of Green Bay Packer cheerleaders? What? :D

I heard superpilot didn't acknowledge a trip until 3 hours prior to departure on LC, and he didn't get a PD because he's just that good.

80ktsClamp

05-19-2014 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1647195)

Everyone has said that. I can't wait.

I also hope DALPA posts information on why they accepted or went after particular items in the TA. That would be a smart move on their part. :rolleyes:

I've stated that in most of my posts the last couple days. ;)

I'm intrigued to see what they present. And as it turns out, since I picked up an SAQ trip with a rather rare airport in it on thursday, I may be paid to be at the meeting. Does that count as being on FPL around here?

I do think the effect of 5:15 ADG and the exemption window narrowed has been understated by many. On the other hand, I do think the negative aspects of allowing the CDOs has been hit on appropriately with great questions and concerns presented. I consider the non-ocean crossing augments to be a non-issue (and aren't some military charter non-ocean crossing segments already augmented via an LOA?), as well as the slight shift from the current dickson letter in earliest day 1 action.

So for me.... It's coming down to if the CDO add is worth it.

Oh... we need to see the language.

newKnow

05-19-2014 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1647196)

I heard superpilot didn't acknowledge a trip until 3 hours prior to departure on LC, and he didn't get a PD because he's just that good.

I wish I could find that pic of the dual engine failure our instructor gave him to fly into Quito. I guess he knew Super needed a challenge. He still made it look easy. :)

newKnow

05-19-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1647197)

I've stated that in most of my posts the last couple days. ;)

I'm intrigued to see what they present. And as it turns out, since I picked up an SAQ trip with a rather rare airport in it on thursday, I may be paid to be at the meeting. Does that count as being on FPL around here?

I do think the effect of 5:15 ADG and the exemption window narrowed has been understated by many. On the other hand, I do think the negative aspects of allowing the CDOs has been hit on appropriately with great questions and concerns presented. I consider the non-ocean crossing augments to be a non-issue (and aren't some military charter non-ocean crossing segments already augmented via an LOA?), as well as the slight shift from the current dickson letter in earliest day 1 action.

So for me.... It's coming down to if the CDO add is worth it.

Oh... we need to see the language.

Yup. I think you are in trouble.

TheManager

05-19-2014 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1647190)

Basically, only captains and captains that were given LOA. Displaced? Too bad, so sad.

Ok. Fill in the blanks for me. SSP = what?

I have no idea how any of this flow stuff started or which regionals have it.

badflaps

05-19-2014 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1647142)

The funny thing is, that's almost exactly what I would do when I used to do them. I'd work out, tell people they were wrong on the internet, and then get about a 2 hour nap during the layover. When I got back home I'd sleep for 6 hours. I found that was the least fatiguing method for me.

That was before mini-80 wasn't it.....

80ktsClamp

05-20-2014 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1647207)

That was before mini-80 wasn't it.....

My last CDO was about 8 years before mini-80. DO NOT under estimate my determination to prove someone wrong on the internet, though. :)

80ktsClamp

05-20-2014 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1647206)

Ok. Fill in the blanks for me. SSP = what?

I have no idea how any of this flow stuff started or which regionals have it.

A tiny handful of Mesaba guys have flow rights, IIRC. A certain amount of Compass guys have flow rights.

SSP is a one day interview that is identical to the normal Delta day 1 interview given to current Endeavor (Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan) captains and whatever an approved leave of absence means. They couldn't staff the airline nor approve any LOAs when I was there, and they are in far deeper trouble now... so that pretty much just means all current captains and the positions that they vacate that are actually replaced as the airline shrinks.

The letter in the standard legalese grey indicates that they are working to something with DL.

gzsg	05-20-2014 12:48 AM

Just say no to CDO.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you 100%. Never thought I would say that.

I can't imagine one single reason to step back in time and decrease our level of safety to agree to CDO.

A huge mistake.

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