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05-23-2014 | 11:47 AM

#158331

Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by Jinks

According to the LOA, this is a new change that affects all reserves. So much for protecting the reserve QOL.

Two hour commute window now only applies to the first day after a non-fly day. See page 24 of the LOA.

But hasn't the notice for short call been increased by the same two hours from 10 to 12? IOW, yesterday I got 10 hours notice for short call and could use the first two of those hours to commute. Now, I get 12 hours notice and use the same two hours (the ones from 10 to 12) to commute.

What's the difference?

05-23-2014 | 11:49 AM

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Check Essential

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WHOA!

Did the webmasters turn on attachments?

av6321_14.jpg

I thought that was a no no ?

05-23-2014 | 11:50 AM

#158333

Scoop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinks

According to the LOA, this is a new change that affects all reserves. So much for protecting the reserve QOL.

Two hour commute window now only applies to the first day after a non-fly day. See page 24 of the LOA.

Jinks,

I saw that but since we now have a minimum of 12 hours until we start short-call isn't that pretty much a wash? Before you could be notified to start SC in 10 hours and be expected to report at the 12 hour mark.

Now you can be notified that you are starting SC in 12 hours and can be expected to report at the 14 hour mark.

Is this how you guys are interpreting the new rules?

Scoop

05-23-2014 | 11:51 AM

#158334

Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Ferd,

Min day was just that. Every day was worth XX.

We have an average daily guarantee, so on average they must equal XX.

Lets say X=5 ... with two trips which fly 8 / o / 8

Min would be 8/5/8=21
Avg would be 8/0/8=16, 16 > 15 so no credit.

Many airlines that have min days have prorated deals where a part day = part pay.

Assuming you're referring to the pre-merger NWA contract, the min day of 4:15 applied only to a turn. Otherwise, NWA had a 5:00 duty period average (vs. our current 5:15 duty period average).

I'm not aware of any airline, other than SWA, that has had a calendar day average such as the 5:15 we'll have by November.

05-23-2014 | 11:53 AM

#158335

Alan Shore

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoop

I saw that but since we now have a minimum of 12 hours until we start short-call isn't that pretty much a wash? Before you could be notified to start SC in 10 hours and be expected to report at the 12 hour mark.

Now you can be notified that you are starting SC in 12 hours and can be expected to report at the 14 hour mark.

Is this how you guys are interpreting the new rules?

That's how I read it.

05-23-2014 | 11:55 AM

#158336

80ktsClamp

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Originally Posted by Check Essential

WHOA!

Did the webmasters turn on attachments?

Attachment 1381

I thought that was a no no ?

I noticed someone attached something yesterday.

funny-pictures-caterpillar-makes-tv-reference.jpg

Oh the pictures ftb and I can have fun with now...

05-23-2014 | 11:57 AM

#158337

80ktsClamp

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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg

Being a Navy guy, I'm going to have to go ahead and correct you. That is an F/A-18.

Why would the Navy have anything to do with it? That's obviously Air Force.

05-23-2014 | 12:02 PM

#158338

Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by Ferd149

NWA had a 4:15 minimum day

Just on 1-day trips, as far as I can tell.

05-23-2014 | 12:07 PM

#158339

Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank

I am, of course, disheartened by another shoddy product from the NC.

Of course. Shoddy? Do tell. Or are you just sniping?

05-23-2014 | 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore

Of course. Shoddy? Do tell. Or are you just sniping?

Until he gets paid and doesn't have to actually perform any work, he will consider the product "shoddy" or a "sell out" or a "sales job".

Really though... he funny.