Thank you. :cool:

I know. :rolleyes:

All due respect, unbeknownst to you, by some of what you post, YOU are "here for the greater good." You are here for the "greater good" of yourself. The "greater good" of yours and your family's future is dependent on the health of the company. Start acting like an individual, instead of a team player, and see how that benefits the future of your earnings, good sir. :rolleyes:


See above.

I agree we have a unique skill set. I disagree it is ALL ABOUT dollars and cents.

One might come before the other if it's an "all about me" campaign!!:eek:

You might have missed where I mentioned that it was not a safety of flight issue.

Let me see if I understand you on this issue: You are saying that if I were to follow the contract to the letter, I would not be "professional." Is that correct?

I think we're talking past each other now. :) I am not saying you would be "professional" or "unprofessional" by following the contract to the letter.

I am saying, if you choose to go "above and beyond" now, but after six months of C2015 negotiations, choose not to do the same exact thing, because you're upset at the company for taking too long in negotiations, then the poor intent - in my mind - leads to an act of unprofessionalism.

P.S. Some people prefer to term it as leverage. Old NWA called it, "meet B.O.B." :)

If true, for once I agree with even a word of what you said. Our leadership ought not to be managing anything downward, especially now.

Nice attitude. What sucks is that you don't even know what you don't even know. These guys actually work hard and put their lives on hold. I am sure they appreciate being called "surrender monkeys." Can I call you a "keyboard commando" who no more represents the typical line pilot than Anna Nicole Smith represented the typical wife of a 90 year old oil tycoon?

We absolutely deserve much more, but as I tried to tell you once, you do realize in our capitalist system that all profits are by definition the property of the shareholders? Reread the earlier post I made about Apples $130 billion cash hoard and how Microsoft got rid of $54 billion by stock buybacks and special dividends.

Possibly. But I don't consider our current contract as it stands a "bankruptcy contract"--not even close. In fact in terms of work rules it exceeds C2K, and while the pay lags, it is not in the same crappy galaxy as the worst of our BK days. In fact most conversations I have with guys run along the lines of "wow, I made a lot of money the past couple of years." This is not because they are all flying 110 hours a month either. It is called lots of modest improvements, all compounded on top of each other.

But you know all that, just don't want to admit it.

Whether I agree with other things you write, this is absolutely true.

You might be spring loaded to the "argue with PD" position. Not that I can blame you. :rolleyes:

My original post was aimed at trying to find a legal, PROFESSIONAL way to show the company exactly how we drive the operation. Nothing more.

For some reason, you went full silly and read into things that just weren't there.

P.s. Show me the money

I thought it was a good post, FWIW. It's amazing when you quantitize how much money we save the company every day by going above and beyond.

If I misunderstood your initial post. I apologize. (Not "spring loaded to argue with the "PD." :) )

I included an excerpt from your original post below. This is the part that I took as meaning, "if the company fails to see how important we are, we will SHOW THEM." Maybe I read too much into it? (On my third tumbler of Glen Livet!) :eek:

I agree with your assertion, "show me the money!"

Are you military or reserves?? USO outside of terminal 1 is worth the effort to hang in, comfy lounge, free food, lots of video games for the kids and movie rooms.

Otherwise, ride the Hacienda bus (hotel pickup) to the sepulveda area and there are some good restaurants a block south and across the street. I suggest Rubios for the best Baha Mexican food available, again worth the effort if you have more than a few hours.