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Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1688497)
If you guys would spend just half the time you take to come up with insults, by instead looking for pics of hot chicks, or coming up with great stories, or making up fantastic rumors, you would distract more people. Ie. you would have a larger audience.
As it stands now, I spend the majority of my time on here reading the first one or two sentences of a post, moving on, because its the same bs, only to find that the whole page is full of "union this vs. union that" crap. Request: Less union debate. More hot chicks, funny stories, and wide body rumors (Boeing), please. :) I think I agree with T here, it's just an unfortunate reality of our medium. Keyboard warriors will be the death of me because they don't have to worry about getting their noses broken......which I would argue allows a civil society:D Denny is are probably the biggest guys on the forum.....and Denny maybe the worlds most laid back guy because in the real world people don't mess with him. Here, not so much:( Ferd PS I agree with what ya say about the personal attacks.....I just scroll on to the next post, life's too short.......MORE UNDERBOOB! |
Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
(Post 1688513)
I've alwayswanted toknow why can't Virgin use the EX-IM bank to buy airplanes from Boeing then sell the jets to Delta?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...30_634x428.jpg No net needed. http://www.virgin.com/sites/default/...cy/1-18659.jpg |
Originally Posted by check essential
(Post 1688467)
union criticism has been an integral part of this thread for a long time.
Alpa guys coming around to defend the union is also traditional. I think the debate has been tremendously useful and informative over the years. The recent exchanges however, have been something different. A lot of people have enjoyed this thread for a long time. You guys are endangering that. Please stop. +1^^^^^this! |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1688503)
Denny,
ALPA has always had contract language to deal with staffing. An easy fix to the AF/KLM deficit was language which required Delta staff for our share of flying without regard for whether it was actually scheduled & flown. As is, it turns out to have just been convenient that there was a deficit in our production balance. I'd state that a lot of things can be "convenient" when you run your own business and have numerous alter ego's to move assets around to:
FWIW, ALPA's been delivering what it's pilots want. Surveys say PAY ME, with distant consideration given to the scope that glues the Company to the agreement. I'd think the first step would be for we line guys to seriously consider what we state in our survey responses. Denny |
Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 1688516)
NewK,
I think I agree with T here, it's just an unfortunate reality of our medium. Keyboard warriors will be the death of me because they don't have to worry about getting their noses broken......which I would argue allows a civil society:D Denny is are probably the biggest guys on the forum.....and Denny maybe the worlds most laid back guy because in the real world people don't mess with him. Here, not so much:( Ferd PS I agree with what ya say about the personal attacks.....I just scroll on to the next post, life's too short.......MORE UNDERBOOB! Denny |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1688482)
...The PWA wrt to the JV does not have noncompliance yet...
"In the case of the rolling three-year measurement periods ending March 31, 2014, and thereafter, the Company shall be required to maintain no less than 48.50%" If the Company is not in compliance with...Section 1 P. 4. for any measurement period, the Company will cure any such breach... Example: If the Company’s EASK capacity share is out of compliance with its minimum EASK allocation for the three-year measurement period ending March 31, 2014, then the Company will return its EASK capacity share to compliance with its minimum EASK allocation for the three year measurement period ending March 31, 2015.
Using the language of the PWA referenced above we are not in compliance with the terms spelled out in PWA 1.P.4. Anybody representing D-ALPA saying otherwise is doing the Delta pilots a great disservice. Please understand, I'm not trying to show you wrong. What I believe is important, is to use proper terminology and be factually accurate, even if it makes our current position look bad. If we truly wish to succeed in C2015, we will need to put on our big boy pants and stop attacking each other and call a spade a spade. If something was good, lets call it good. If something isn't so good we better make sure to call it that, even if it pains us to admit it. When it comes to C2012 lets focus on what was good and what wasn't so we can achieve superior results next time. Looking back and calling C2012 all bad or all good doesn't serve any of us. looking back and saying "we can improve that" is our best way forward. We have a great group of guys here. This petty back and forth is pathetic. I believe without a doubt ALPA will be our bargaining agent in C2015 so we better get our act together. It will take all sides to put aside our differences and come to consensus, that's the source of unity and our key to success in C2015. Cheers George *Based on our target of 52% as spelled out in the PWA, 47.2% if you choose to use the actual share of Delta flying of 51.7% at the time of the induction of Alitalia in the TAJV. |
Originally Posted by Oberon
(Post 1688440)
New hire question.
I need to get a van time changed to arrive on time for TOE. I'm on hold with Crew Accommodations; how long does it usually take to talk to an actual person? I waited 15 minute the first time figuring I was lost in the queue. This seems excessive. :cool: Actually accomodations can take forever to reach. They usually have one or two people staffing them, so one pilot gets through in 2 seconds while someone that calls right after can wait a while. You could also try the transportation company direct. Some are very flexible and even if they're not, there's often an earlier van already scheduled for another crew you can usually ride on. Improvise, adapt, overcome. :D |
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1688497)
If you guys would spend just half the time you take to come up with insults, by instead looking for pics of hot chicks, or coming up with great stories, or making up fantastic rumors, you would distract more people. Ie. you would have a larger audience.
As it stands now, I spend the majority of my time on here reading the first one or two sentences of a post, moving on, because its the same bs, only to find that the whole page is full of "union this vs. union that" crap. Request: Less union debate. More hot chicks, funny stories, and wide body rumors (Boeing), please. :) Then reality will hit. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1688466)
Virgin would qualify for EX-IM.......
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1688524)
Again, I don't disagree with what you are saying but you really did not answer my question which, paraphrased, was "What penalty, other than money, do we get from the company for contract violations and how do we keep them from violating the contract anytime they want to in the future?" Oops, I guess that's 2 questions. That's fine. I don't know that there is an answer to it.
Denny It's like an un-stabilized approach, typically it starts pretty far away from the airport and snowballs from there, early recognition is how to avoid it in the first place. For the TAJV there's a case of "not looking bad" that has muted the early indicators of the problem. If we have "constructive engagement" then it goes both ways and Delta is interested in making it right - if we speak up. I'm certain there have been discussions with the company wrt underlying our share of the TAJV flying, but all of that has been kept relatively quiet when it comes to the general Delta pilot population. Compare the communications about our existing agreement of share of flying on Transatlantic routes (PWA Section 1.P.) with the communication about potential threats to our flying on transatlantic routes (NAI) and you'll see what I mean. Only once we have a robust way of objectively talking about where we stand can we even consider the remedies. We aren't there yet and it will take all of us pulling on the same rope to get there. Cheers George |
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