Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-02-2014, 07:08 AM
The Brown Dot +1
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Originally Posted by casual observer
Now, if they want to pay protect me for what I can hold and then lock me, fine.
Two's in.
Two's in.
08-02-2014, 07:09 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
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Originally Posted by satchip
I think the damage done to the Constitution and our previously limited government may never be undone. I blame both sides for that.
The problem is the area highlighted in red. It changes good people for the worst and empowers the worst to be even worse then they were going in.
And it's sick it's the richest section of the country. The top two richest counties in the country are there as are 4 out of the top 5 and 6 out of the top 10.
I think if I could be President the first thing I'd do is cancel the White House Correspondence Dinner. Just to watch all of the heads explode.
08-02-2014, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Who the crap cares about aircraft type? Are you that childish? Is this a NASCAR race where we're cheering for a chevy or a ford? Airbus, Boeing.... we fly them and get paid.
None of this changes the fact that we actively codeshare with these carriers. They are flying people that bought tickets from the company that employs us. I didn't like flying the 737, but you don't see me making statements that I'd never get caught dead flying it. This is not about an airplane type- this is about scope. We are rapidly parking 25% of our largest fleet type with no replacement on property (apparently the 333IGW will be the capacity replacement when it gets here via reading between the lines), while our codeshare partners expand their "premium" fleets.
You don't care about small end scope, and I get that since it is mostly self mitigating at this point in time (the pendulum will swing the other way). However, this is top end jobs at DL being whisked away actively. Korean Air believes they should be doing all the Pacific flying. You've heard RA say that at the meetings.
So... where do we go from here? You constantly harp on hopey changey stuff yet you have presented so few ideas of your own- just mostly insults to others. Let's hear it, t. What can we do with the dynamics of the last few days other than ride the wave?
None of this changes the fact that we actively codeshare with these carriers. They are flying people that bought tickets from the company that employs us. I didn't like flying the 737, but you don't see me making statements that I'd never get caught dead flying it. This is not about an airplane type- this is about scope. We are rapidly parking 25% of our largest fleet type with no replacement on property (apparently the 333IGW will be the capacity replacement when it gets here via reading between the lines), while our codeshare partners expand their "premium" fleets.
You don't care about small end scope, and I get that since it is mostly self mitigating at this point in time (the pendulum will swing the other way). However, this is top end jobs at DL being whisked away actively. Korean Air believes they should be doing all the Pacific flying. You've heard RA say that at the meetings.
So... where do we go from here? You constantly harp on hopey changey stuff yet you have presented so few ideas of your own- just mostly insults to others. Let's hear it, t. What can we do with the dynamics of the last few days other than ride the wave?
08-02-2014, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Oberon
I like the idea of staffing for the flying whether or not the flights are flown. That fixes the problem going forward. The past infractions can be monetized since you can't retroactively staff.
I think this is achievable in the negotiation/grievance process. Carl mentioned ending the JV but I doubt an arbitrator would force the company to stop commerce. The punishment doesn't fit the crime and it doesn't even really help Delta pilots.
I think this is achievable in the negotiation/grievance process. Carl mentioned ending the JV but I doubt an arbitrator would force the company to stop commerce. The punishment doesn't fit the crime and it doesn't even really help Delta pilots.
08-02-2014, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Well stated Clamp. T brings nothing to the table, but harps against others who want to stop the insanity.
And I am the one that is fighting those that want to stop insanity? You don't want to stop insanity, you want to preserve your little piece of Nirvana, and believe it or not, I get that... but you are fighting the tides of the ocean. You really should look at ways to leverage those tides, instead of living in the 1960s.
08-02-2014, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Well stated Clamp. T brings nothing to the table, but harps against others who want to stop the insanity.
In all honesty, I can see the contradiction in Clamps post. On the one hand he says "Who cares about what aircraft type?" But then in the very same post he says " However, this is top end jobs at DL being whisked away actively."
That, to me, says Clamp does care about what aircraft types are out there. Maybe I misinterpreted his post but that's the way it came across to me.
Denny
08-02-2014, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
PWA Section 3. G. 1.: "An end-of-month (EOM) partial payment on the last business day of the corresponding calendar month in the amount of one-half of the reserve guarantee at his composite hourly pay rate as of the date of the payment, and..."
08-02-2014, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
How much of a paycut are you gonna take when the 747 bubbas pile on top of you?
And I am the one that is fighting those that want to stop insanity? You don't want to stop insanity, you want to preserve your little piece of Nirvana, and believe it or not, I get that... but you are fighting the tides of the ocean.
And I am the one that is fighting those that want to stop insanity? You don't want to stop insanity, you want to preserve your little piece of Nirvana, and believe it or not, I get that... but you are fighting the tides of the ocean.
The 747 bubbas affected are going to exert pressure on all of us except the very top. I won't be displaced, but will likely move down a little. Nah I won't be executed, I'll just get chewed out. I've been chewed out before. If I'm displaced, I'll displace to a seat I've been contemplating bidding anyway. I am hopeful there was a rapid aircraft acquisition like I've heard about for 3-4 months now.
I've got to admit, the green slips have been a boon to me personally this year, but that's only one piece of the equation.
08-02-2014, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Clamp and Scambo,
In all honesty, I can see the contradiction in Clamps post. On the one hand he says "Who cares about what aircraft type?" But then in the very same post he says " However, this is top end jobs at DL being whisked away actively."
That, to me, says Clamp does care about what aircraft types are out there. Maybe I misinterpreted his post but that's the way it came across to me.
Denny
In all honesty, I can see the contradiction in Clamps post. On the one hand he says "Who cares about what aircraft type?" But then in the very same post he says " However, this is top end jobs at DL being whisked away actively."
That, to me, says Clamp does care about what aircraft types are out there. Maybe I misinterpreted his post but that's the way it came across to me.
Denny
08-02-2014, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Did they make fewer and shorter PAs?
Carl
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