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tsquare 10-04-2014 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1739896)

"Freeze gopher"! (You get that one?)

Hotty Toddy fer sure. Round the bowl and down the hole, roll tide roll.

oh, and GBO.

DAL 88 Driver 10-04-2014 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1739898)
If they do come to be, are YOU going to fly them? :rolleyes:

He won't be faced with making that choice. That's why he doesn't care.

I don't buy for a second that the company doesn't want CDO's. That's why DALPA is pushing so hard for them. The small group of fNWA pilots who want them is just an excuse.

I guess the CPO can tell me I'm "like a bunch of old women" when I refuse to sign the release to fly fatigued. :rolleyes:

tsquare 10-04-2014 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1739903)
He won't be faced with making that choice. That's why he doesn't care.

I don't buy for a second that the company doesn't want CDO's. That's why DALPA is pushing so hard for them. The small group of fNWA pilots who want them is just an excuse.

I guess the CPO can tell me I'm "like a bunch of old women" when I refuse to sign the release to fly fatigued. :rolleyes:

This sounds like a five year old that is going to hold his breath. Sorry, but http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV...,67,98_AL_.jpg

sailing is right.... I don't want the damned things either, but getting this spun up is ridiculous.

Imapilot2 10-04-2014 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1739882)
You guys are like a bunch of old women on the CDO thing. I realize it's part of a anti ALPA rhetoric to keep bringing them up but here is the simple truth. The company can take them or leave them. They are not pushing for them. CDO's originated with the pilot group. If the contract survey shows they are not wanted that will be the end of the story. Find something new to whine about. If you're concerned about them then get your survey filled out.

are you serious sailing? I rarely come on here to complain usually it's a positive note and you have to chime in and tell me I need to stop whining and pick something else. You are one of the kings of whining and you're going to tell me what I can and can't say on here? who died and made you king of this forum?

Doug Masters 10-04-2014 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1739878)
Me too! And if the contract gets passed and I end up getting assigned to fly one, one of two things will happen:

1 - I will find some way to get out of the trip and some other poor sucker will have to fly it.

2 - If I end up getting stuck with the trip, I will be calling in fatigued for the morning flight. I will not sign a release certifying I'm fit to conduct a flight when I'm fatigued. That is illegal and irresponsible. (How do you guys think CDO's came to be known as "illegals" in the first place? :eek:)


This. Just don't sign the release. FOs too. We both sign now.

sailingfun 10-04-2014 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1739910)
are you serious sailing? I rarely come on here to complain usually it's a positive note and you have to chime in and tell me I need to stop whining and pick something else. You are one of the kings of whining and you're going to tell me what I can and can't say on here? who died and made you king of this forum?

Show me some posts where I whine. I know of one recently about the poor high hot performance on the bus. The above post was however not directed at you but at the never ending stream of CDO posts. Note that I said you guys. Your post was the last in the thread.

sailingfun 10-04-2014 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1739898)
If they do come to be, are YOU going to fly them? :rolleyes:

Probably not and I put no way on CDO's in my survey. I do however doubt they are nearly as fatiguing as some of the international we do. Nothing like a 12:30 AM body time wake up in CDG to ride a bus for 1.5 hours to then sit at the airport for 2 more hours then depart for CVG at 4:40 body time. Might even get hit with a 2 or 3 hour delay and have been up all night before you depart.

Purple Drank 10-04-2014 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1739718)
Seriously?

Leine, I haven't heard back from you. What did you find out about CC being on FPL to organize the ALPA BOD golf tournament?

CGfalconHerc 10-04-2014 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1739934)
Probably not and I put no way on CDO's in my survey. I do however doubt they are nearly as fatiguing as some of the international we do. Nothing like a 12:30 AM body time wake up in CDG to ride a bus for 1.5 hours to then sit at the airport for 2 more hours then depart for CVG at 4:40 body time. Might even get hit with a 2 or 3 hour delay and have been up all night before you depart.

Not whinning, not anti-alpa, just venting on a public forum that I will vote no regardless of what DALPA brings in a potential TA if it contains CDO's.

Having not had the opportunity to sit in CDG waiting for a hotel room or a van before going back for a couple hours of rest and a movie while at cruise, I can't comment on the fatigue you must have to endure. But having had the pleasure of multiple BHM, HSV, GSO, SDF, CMH, CLE, ect. turns on reserve on multiple NB's, I can safely say that CDO's will become a safety concern for those pilots forced to "hack it" over a prolonged period of time.

I'm sure you've done your share of multiple short turns as well..we're just more likely to have to fly CDO's if they become reality in the near future...thus, the whining.

War Eagle!

LeineLodge 10-04-2014 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1739938)
Leine, I haven't heard back from you. What did you find out about CC being on FPL to organize the ALPA BOD golf tournament?

Not blowing you off. I've had CQ the past 2 days and haven't had a chance to talk to my rep. On the way to Auburn right now to watch the Tigers win so it will probably be Monday before I can get back to you.

Have a good weekend.

WDE


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