Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-06-2018 | 06:45 PM
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Where does the block/credit fall if a trip finishes after midnight but before 0200? Example.. two (three) day trip SEP29-30 with a block-in at 0040 local on Oct 1. Sep29-30 are in the current bid period.. so does all of the block/credit fall into September? Or will 40 mins of block spillover to Oct 1? Or is it computed some other way entirely?
I looked through sections 3 and 12 for answers but didn't find one that was clear. 3-F doesn't seem to address this.
I looked through sections 3 and 12 for answers but didn't find one that was clear. 3-F doesn't seem to address this.
09-09-2018 | 03:34 PM
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Joint venture update
From airliners.net where some guy posts weekly updates
Delta is reducing flying by a couple flights a week from dtw and sjd, pvr, and cun
Meanwhile in the last year aero Mexico has added dtw to bjx, qro, mty, all on Aeromexico connect
From airliners.net where some guy posts weekly updates
Delta is reducing flying by a couple flights a week from dtw and sjd, pvr, and cun
Meanwhile in the last year aero Mexico has added dtw to bjx, qro, mty, all on Aeromexico connect
09-10-2018 | 06:13 AM
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09-10-2018 | 06:48 AM
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My management contacts have a different view. They claim the issue now is that some environmental upgrades are needed and we don’t want to invest all of our own capital in it so we’re seeking investors. They say that the oil industry seems to hate the fact that we own a refinery and it screws up their models.
It’s a pretty contrarion view compared to that article. The truth probably lays somewhere in between.
It’s a pretty contrarion view compared to that article. The truth probably lays somewhere in between.
09-10-2018 | 06:50 AM
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Can you post a link or reference the name of the thread and page number? Thanks
09-10-2018 | 07:20 AM
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So the Forbes article is from an acknowledged long time critic of Delta's refinery purchase. "Well this ought to be fair and balanced"...I think to myself.So I add up the stated losses $303 Million, add back the profits of $387 million....hmmm...whether I use "new " math or old math, it still seems to be a profit of almost $85 Million ....of course they haven't reported the 2017 results.....so the profit/loss could vary but I feel no matter how it shakes out it will be less significant than a hair on a pimple. So, pilots term the Trainer purchase a "blunder", debacle" of whatever.....same ol same ol
Since it is less than a compelling performance one way or the other, I applaud them on at least trying(I feel there are some tax write-offs that may have also helped). I put it in the same realm as starting service to destinations...Havana comes to mind...leaping into the foray and then later modifying, curtailing, or expanding the service.
"And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off https://youtu.be/nfWlot6h_JM?list=RDnfWlot6h_JM&t=100
Since it is less than a compelling performance one way or the other, I applaud them on at least trying(I feel there are some tax write-offs that may have also helped). I put it in the same realm as starting service to destinations...Havana comes to mind...leaping into the foray and then later modifying, curtailing, or expanding the service.
"And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off https://youtu.be/nfWlot6h_JM?list=RDnfWlot6h_JM&t=100
09-10-2018 | 07:23 AM
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So the Forbes article is from an acknowledged long time critic of Delta's refinery purchase. "Well this ought to be fair and balanced"...I think to myself.So I add up the stated losses $303 Million, add back the profits of $387 million....hmmm...whether I use "new " math or old math, it still seems to be a profit of almost $85 Million ....of course they haven't reported the 2017 results.....so the profit/loss could vary but I feel no matter how it shakes out it will be less significant than a hair on a pimple. So, pilots term the Trainer purchase a "blunder", debacle" of whatever.....same ol same ol
Since it is less than a compelling performance one way or the other, I applaud them on at least trying(I feel there are some tax write-offs that may have also helped). I put it in the same realm as starting service to destinations...Havana comes to mind...leaping into the foray and then later modifying, curtailing, or expanding the service.
"And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it offhttps://youtu.be/nfWlot6h_JM?list=RDnfWlot6h_JM&t=100
Since it is less than a compelling performance one way or the other, I applaud them on at least trying(I feel there are some tax write-offs that may have also helped). I put it in the same realm as starting service to destinations...Havana comes to mind...leaping into the foray and then later modifying, curtailing, or expanding the service.
"And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it offhttps://youtu.be/nfWlot6h_JM?list=RDnfWlot6h_JM&t=100
yep.... this^^^^^^^^^^^
09-10-2018 | 07:31 AM
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So the Forbes article is from an acknowledged long time critic of Delta's refinery purchase. "Well this ought to be fair and balanced"...I think to myself.So I add up the stated losses $303 Million, add back the profits of $387 million....hmmm...whether I use "new " math or old math, it still seems to be a profit of almost $85 Million ....of course they haven't reported the 2017 results.....so the profit/loss could vary but I feel no matter how it shakes out it will be less significant than a hair on a pimple. So, pilots term the Trainer purchase a "blunder", debacle" of whatever.....same ol same ol
Since it is less than a compelling performance one way or the other, I applaud them on at least trying(I feel there are some tax write-offs that may have also helped). I put it in the same realm as starting service to destinations...Havana comes to mind...leaping into the foray and then later modifying, curtailing, or expanding the service.
"And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off https://youtu.be/nfWlot6h_JM?list=RDnfWlot6h_JM&t=100
Since it is less than a compelling performance one way or the other, I applaud them on at least trying(I feel there are some tax write-offs that may have also helped). I put it in the same realm as starting service to destinations...Havana comes to mind...leaping into the foray and then later modifying, curtailing, or expanding the service.
"And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off https://youtu.be/nfWlot6h_JM?list=RDnfWlot6h_JM&t=100
What seems odd is pilots and pilots on this forum in general attack Delta management on everything they do. Look at tha abuse heaped on the various methods they used to improve ontime performance which has been a resounding success verses the praise for the refinery that has been unsuccessful.
It has however been great for UAL in Newark and other large NY airlines. Not so great for Delta.
09-10-2018 | 07:58 AM
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Please don't misinterpret kudos for the thought process as praise for the results....not what I said. In investing, I don't always pick winners, Delta doesn't always start service to lucrative locales, people don't always purchase houses that only go up in value ...etc, etc. But they do have to suit up and play the game, the ref may throw a penalty flag once in a while but if your team makes 6 billion/ year I don't think it's reasonable or "big picture" to only cite the "failures" and then paint Delta management as bumbling fools
09-10-2018 | 08:39 AM
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What seems odd is pilots and pilots on this forum in general attack Delta management on everything they do. Look at tha abuse heaped on the various methods they used to improve ontime performance which has been a resounding success verses the praise for the refinery that has been unsuccessful.
I think we're in our little bubble of traveling only on Delta and focusing on the issues while not realizing how it is for the pax. The company is doing a really good job of running the airline and keeping us all focused in the right direction.
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