When the money coming in will not support the staff at ALPA National.

I truly hope that you aren't referring to DL as the Titanic by extension, through your somewhat spurious analogy.
When the going gets tough, and times get rough, people become more competitive and have a greater incentive to put out their "A-game" to distinguish themselves. Don't believe it? Look at old pictures of people who were out of work during the Great Depression. What were they dressed in? By and large, we find them dressed to the nines, even to stand in a bread line. It has everything to do with respect for others and yourself. And it shouldn't have anything to do with matters of pay, pension losses, and declining quality of life. After all, who are you getting back at by leaving off the hat? It ultimately comes back to you.

Now I truly hope that you take the points I make at face value, and that they are not specifically targeted towards anybody. You have everything to gain by maintaining the appearance of the consummate professional pilot, no matter what. It is good. And good goes around :D

I think they are analogies, but believe me, that is not my area of expertise. (If I even have one) :rolleyes:

I even looked up the definitions and still don't know. :D

Here's some good news, makes me think that the boys in charge ARE really starting to think about quality control on many different levels.:)

Additional insourcing planned for DTW, MSP, MEM

Airport Customer Service leaders announced today that Delta will bring additional work in-house on the ramp in the pre-merger Northwest hubs of Minneapolis/St. Paul, Detroit and Memphis. “In the three pre-merger Northwest hubs, mainline work on the ramp that is currently performed by vendors at Delta will be staffed by pre-merger Northwest employees beginning in mid to late May,” Gil West, s.v.p.-ACS, Delta, and Crystal Knotek, s.v.p.-ACS, Northwest, told employees in a memo. “In addition, we recently announced our intent to insource numerous ramp locations to Delta employees. Pre-merger Delta employees who are on furlough or are currently working in another station have an opportunity to return to these locations.” Read the memo on DeltaNet.

Regional airlines feeling pain of mainline partners

U.S. regional airlines enjoyed robust growth and financial returns during the past several years when mainline partners reduced capacity and outsourced flying, but those days may be coming to an end, Don Bornhorst, s.v.p.-Delta Connection, said in an article in Air Transport World’s ATWOnline today. “In the old days, capacity pulldowns meant more flying for the regionals,” but prospects for regional airline growth are limited this year as capacity cutbacks by mainline carriers likely will be “mirrored” by their regional partners, Don said in the article.

Thats good news....

There're always 2 sides to a coin
 

Though it's very uplifting news that our bean counters think that "insourcing" is the right thing to do right now, I only believe it's because at this moment, they cannot boost the efficiency of the regional side of things any more. As soon as they find a loophole to exploit, and they will find it, and we'll be back to square one.

For us line pilots, scope is our most important tool in this fight. Once we give 'em an inch (which we already have throughout the years), they'll want the whole yard and then some.

The buck stops here. (I hope:)

Fly!!

Who are you? My gawd boy, wasting your new guy posts on UNIFORM issues? There are much bigger fish to fry lad.

Am I going to wear my new uniform exactly like the picture?...absolutely!

Am I going to wear my hat in the terminal?....absolutely!

Am I going to bit$h about it.........absolutely!:eek:

I see by your "position" you my be a management type. So, quit waisting our time on uniforms and tell me about computer integration issues. Like, when can I check loads on each others system? When can I book a jumpseat on each other's airline? Why are we downgrading NWA systems to Delta computer systems (yes, I know it's over cost).

Give us meat..........not fluff lad..........or take it to the hanger section and let us discuss serious stuff here.;)

Your Uncle Ferd

Delta is not really insourcing the ramp jobs. They have set up companies like DSS and DGS. Delta staffing services and Delta Global Services. The ramp employees don't work for Delta they work for DSS. The pay and benefits are often less then the employees were getting they are replacing. When you deal with ground workers you often assume they are Delta. Most of the time they are not. They belong to DSS or DGS and don't make near as much as Delta employees did on the same jobs. The fact Delta was non union allowed them to pull this off. It started in the mid nineties. Big cost savings to the company and they keep some control over the quality. Thousands of loyal Delta employees however lost their jobs in the transition. I am sure they would love to do the same thing with pilot jobs!

I'm guessing you have a desk drawer full of Starbucks cards to give out.

I thought you had to be a pilot to join this site........