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Originally Posted by LuvJockey
(Post 998206)
That's great - a place that you can afford!
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 998207)
I've been debt free for 7 years dude.. I got all I need.
Meanwhile, I still have a Florida House with all that entails. Paying it down as quickly as possible. You'll be happy for me, too because I'm sitting in left seat in June. |
Originally Posted by LuvJockey
(Post 998205)
Well first of all, you spelled sentence wrong. 2nd of all, I don't know of anybody that spent 6 years at SWA to depart to Delta unless they got fired, then I doubt that Delta would take you. You would have had to be in the left seat by the time you left SWA, so the financial loss that you would have experienced over the last years would have been staggering. If that's the case, by all means tell me your story.
Hows the upgrade time looking over there now ;) Plenty of retirements to make up for that lack of growth? I guess you can staple all the AirTran guys that you're merging with... that'll help your upgrade time! Wait.. I wonder of the arbiter is going to go along with that? I guess you can enjoy flying right seat with a WN reject, right? |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 998197)
I wouldn't trade places with your number 1 captain. not that there's any difference between the number 1 and the number 200... but up and down.. up and down... repeat for 30 years ain't my cup of tea. Speaking of which... Anybody been to the Brown Door in Beijing? Great tea there.. and the beer is pretty cheap too. :D
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Originally Posted by LuvJockey
(Post 998208)
That's awesome. I'm happy for you.
Meanwhile, I still have a Florida House with all that entails. Paying it down as quickly as possible. You'll be happy for me, too because I'm sitting in left seat in June. |
Honestly, I don't think that it'll go to arbitration. Arbitration still leaves too many unknowns for the group as a whole like 717 pay rates, bidding between aircraft, seniority issues with aircraft that are retired/sold/etc.
Upgrades are going pretty well at the moment. July shows plus 60 captain slots. The stagnation is pretty much over with the airplanes that are being delivered to SWA (both SWA orders and AirTrans orders going to SWA operations). School house is busy hiring another 180 plus guys to be on the line by this fall. And yes, I do appreciate the fact that you Delta guys are concerned for me, but I seriously doubt that I'd be moved back to the right seat post-agreement unless we merge with super-cool major airlines like Delta that have all of your benefits on them (like ALPA policy). Maybe we could just all organize under SWAPA so that management would have to recognize scope protection. Oh my, it seems I've worn out my welcome. Please invoke my name over here occasionally so that I feel invited in again. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 998210)
I gotta agree with that. Domestic 737 trips are OK but flying the heavy jets over the big water is an experience I would not want to have missed in my career. The Asian cities are incredibly interesting but for pure enjoyment -- the summer layovers in Germany and Italy are truly superb.
Going to FCO next month... doing a TOE. Hopefully it is one of you clowns that have been sitting for 2 months waiting :) Bring lots of cash if it is :cool: |
For a good read go to that "other" forum.....frightinfo......click on the 135 forum and read the delta private jets thread. The pilots there hate management and are all trying to leave. Looks like they want big daddy from ATL to come and clean house.
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Originally Posted by LuvJockey
(Post 998213)
Honestly, I don't think that it'll go to arbitration. Arbitration still leaves too many unknowns for the group as a whole like 717 pay rates, bidding between aircraft, seniority issues with aircraft that are retired/sold/etc.
You honestly don't think that it will go to arbitration? This is where you unquestionably display a lack of being able to put yourself into someone else's shoes. If you were an Air Tran SLI negotiator, would you want to make any concession beyond relative seniority, only to have your entire pilot group blame you for them not getting their vacation, their weekends off, their great layover in AUA, or their base at home in LAS, for your entire career? Even though you wish they would concede and bypass arbitration, it's not happening, my friend. Their negotiators would rather lay all the blame at the foot of the arbitrator -- so do yours. Here's a bit of advice: Sit back,relax, enjoy the ride, don't take it so personal, and when you get real queasy, research previous arbitrator rulings and try to find awards that merged seniority lists based on W2 earnings and expectations. Make sure you have a lot of time and a really powerful search engine for the last one. ;) |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 998214)
Going to FCO next month... doing a TOE. Hopefully it is one of you clowns that have been sitting for 2 months waiting :) Bring lots of cash if it is :cool:
They are sending me to re-establish currency because im well past the 90 days. Although it would be fun to go with you to FCO i'm fine waiting this out as long as they let me:D |
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