PG, juries did not prove that OJ and Casey Anthony were "innocent"...they proved that they were "not guilty", meaning insufficient proof was put forward to meet the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt". OJ did lose in civil court for "wrongful death" of Nicole Brown Simpson, with a standard of the "preponderance of evidence".

Just a point of clarification of useless trivia.

 

So I think I had the highest VR I've had to date on the 88/90... 157.

We're doing flaps 5 takeoffs so just ignore us as we zoom by and rotate on the numbers on the far end of a 12,000 runway. Yehaw.

 

Had similar numbers leaving Guadalajara 2 days ago...13,000 ft runway, 5,000 ft pressure altitude, full load on an A320...whoopee.

Oh, and big mountains too... Looking forward to my -88 training in November too!

 

I'd hate to see our numbers there!

The 157 was in BWI.

 

Did get 1st group of early outs retire on August 1st? I moved up almost 30 #'s on the August seniority list which seems like a lot. Nice move either way

 

Unfortunately some of the LEC members like to give their own opinions, when they are the ones who should be taking our opinions and passing that onto the negotiators. It seems they pass their opinions off as fact, and that is wrong. Lot's of head shaking, and managing of expectations.

I think the contract survey will tell a lot, and 15% won't even be close. Last Winter's numbers don't reflect the knowledge of recent profits and recent events like Airtran pilots getting Southwest pay and benefits in their upcoming joint contract. The opener will be important, and without promotion of the pilot group into top tier status among our peers (read SWA and Fedex), I feel the DPA will have a shot at the upset. Dalpa better get it right at that opener.

 

Uh... wrong. Juries, don't PROVE anything. They weigh evidence given to them by prosecutors and defenses. I cannot believe that you said that....

 

Flying the 90 out west, those types of numbers were the norm - it's almost always flaps 5 out of SLC, LAS, etc. Did a flaps 4 out of RNO on a hot day once. Don't remember what the Vr was, but it was big adjust that IAS to TAS and we were really moving down that pavement.

 

Thanks, dragon.

 

Three Airlines Look “Oversold and Ripe to Buy”: Dahlman Rose

By Avi Salzman

Dahlman Rose analyst Helane Becker upgraded three airlines this morning after stocks in the industry fell 16% last month and 8% just last week. Becker raised Delta (DAL), United Continental (UAL) and Alaska Airlines (ALK) to Buy from Hold, and also boosted JetBlue (JBLU) to Hold from Sell, as capacity cuts in the industry should help improve profitability at the airlines going forward.

“We believe the airlines may exceed scaled-down expectations in 2H11 given the planned capacity cuts,” Becker writes.

Delta and United should also be able to shore up their balance sheets in the next couple of years.

“Delta Air Lines and United Continental stated they plan to use free cash flow over the next two years to pay down debt. Both companies target $10 billion in net debt. We believe both are likely to achieve this by 2013, although Delta has been more aggressive in marketing this as a goal. As Delta and United pay down debt, interest expense will decline improving the bottom line.”

But AMR (AMR), the parent of American Airlines, could see more troubles ahead, and Becker dropped her price target on the stock to $3.75 from $4.50.

Delta rose 2.7% in early trading. United was up 1.1%, Alaska Airlines rose 1.4% and JetBlue was up 1.5%.