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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 1042026)

They sit in 1st class or they get the exit row.

Thanks, it was actually a CAL pilot that told me that but maybe it was something else he was referring to. I just remember him saying the last row in coach was the crew rest seat.

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Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1042027)

I see the glass half full with urine.

I thought it was a pickle jar.

So is that thing floating in it not a pickle?

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1042001)

Yep, 739s is what bloomberg is saying. Hopefully this is someone talking out of hand and isn't exactly in the know because this would to me be very disappointing.

The 737-900? :rolleyes:

Well let's talk about the pro's. It's a narrow seating aircraft so it's really great for small people. It's low riding, which means there is no room for engine improvement. It's very long, so it takes forever to get off of and it's limited due to tail strikes on rotation. It has a cockpit that complies with SWA demands to have commonality with a 30 year old design. It's a longer version of an airplane we stopped ordering.

It will replace the 757.

Blah.

Two thumbs down.

Advantages of the 737-900.

Saves the "redundant" brakes and tires the 757 uses to get stopped
Easy to perform V1 cuts with a rotation speed near cruise speed
Never exceeds 4 degrees nose up, or 2 degrees nose down, for the pitch adverse
Engines could be managed with a single pole switch, full power & off
Too much airplane on too little wing makes for a comfortable transition for Douglas drivers
RJ like cabin accommodations make our product more "seamless"
Airspace is less crowded in the low to mid 20's, where this airplane reaches it apogee. There are fewer turbocharged Cessna aircraft to get in the way (their new product line all outperfoms this jet)
Less opportunity for confusion on the ground. This airplane only has to find its way to the "longest available."

FTB, we can hope some fall out of the upcoming debacle at SWA results in the 717's getting shaken loose.

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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1042021)

Not to mention the company will sell this as just a "737" so no need for it to pay like the plane it's replacing aka 757.

On the north side, the 757-300s replaced higher paying DC-10s when Anderson was in charge. Pattern?

A while back on a very early flight I listened to a minute long speech to ATC from a CAL guy explaining why it was taking him so long to get to altitude in his shiny new -900. Apparently it's ridiculously underpowered. I was on one on a mil charter from Vegas to SC a few years ago. We did a fuel stop in Texas! Must have been some extenuating circumstance that I didn't know about in that case, but it still sounds like a pretty poor 757 replacement.

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1042033)

Advantages of the 737-900.

Saves the "redundant" brakes and tires the 757 uses to get stopped
Easy to perform V1 cuts with a rotation speed near cruise speed
Never exceeds 4 degrees nose up, or 2 degrees nose down, for the pitch adverse
Engines could be managed with a single pole switch, full power & off
Too much airplane on too little wing makes for a comfortable transition for Douglas drivers
RJ like cabin accommodations make our product more "seamless"
Airspace is less crowded in the low to mid 20's, where this airplane reaches it apogee. There are fewer turbocharged Cessna aircraft to get in the way (their new product line all outperfoms this jet)
Less opportunity for confusion on the ground. This airplane only has to find its way to the "longest available."

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1117/...6a4432f74e.jpg

Bar gets an A.

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Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1042027)

I see the glass half full with urine.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1042012)

Man your a pessimist. With some the glass is half full. With some its half empty. Some see it as cracked and leaking.

Could it be the glass isn't half full, but that the glass is twice the size it needs to be?

That's the philosophy behind the 737 NG. The 757 was "too good" and as a result "too expensive." Now it is on its' way to being a legend like the L1011. (or the F4 before that) Something we will annoy our First Officers by talking about ... .

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1042033)

Additional Advantages of the 737-900.

Rotation speeds identical, if not higher than the B767-300ER speeds that crews will be transitioning from.
A crew rest seat that makes the B757-200ER seat look comfortable
Easier SLI with AK as "we both fly the same aircraft"

But in the end, The Don doesn't pick a 737 for his travels...

I can't get it to embed: Video of Trump's B757: Mr. Trump's 757 - YouTube

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1042033)

FTB, we can hope some fall out of the upcoming debacle at SWA results in the 717's getting shaken loose.

That would help. Whatever comes down to the pipe on the smaller end here's to hoping it's ours without question. And I mean they announce it and nobody questions where it's headed.

The 717 would trump the E190 (it sounds like from our JB friends) but I'll take the E190 as a plan B. But the cabin alone on the E190 would be the best in the airline if we ordered it.

The best part is the 717s and E190s could show up in 2012 without a problem.

Plan C would be the C-Series. I just wish it existed right now and could roll in 2012 and be everything they promise. Because if it is, it'd be a great long term plane.

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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1042013)

Thats part one, part two to come soon for airbus

On a side note, look at this -900....

Photos: Boeing 737-990 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

At Alaska, do Captains routinely take off with their arms out the window? :D

-i know, just saying at first glance-

At least this thread is interesting again. I'd rather hear about new airplanes any day than hear more squawking about DALPA vs. DPA.

FWIW, I'd much rather see an Airbus order myself. Boeing has milked the "most successful" commercial aircraft for a little too long in my opinion.

Any aircraft that requires TWO tailstrike indicators has been stretched just a little too much (Plus the Airbus cockpit is WAAAAY more comfortable)