Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Probably the most important work rule change, followed by training pay and vacation pay.

They are making out like bandits with the training set up and reduced pay they have now.

shiznit

12-14-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1101810)

It's a sound idea but the reality is even for an extension work rules would need to be upped and the min day one pay would need to be exponentially higher for it to pass. I think RA may try for 10% or less but knows it will need to be more.

I too will be floored to make it to April without an offer that is just good enough to send to memrat.

I agree that we need to improve work rules greatly, things could be much better, but the more complex a deal becomes the less likely it is worth it (for the company).

One thing I've been pondering is a signing bonus for new hires that gives a $40k deposit into the 401k but it doesn't vest until the start of 6 year pay(so you could invest it as you wanted but couldn't pull it out)...... It would help DAL recruit the cream of the crop but you couldn't "take the money and run", after 5 full years you probably aren't going to change carriers. Just a thought.

tsquare

12-14-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1101787)

That is what I see as a good possibility as well.

Another Florida base? :rolleyes:

Timbo

12-14-2011 03:00 PM

I smell 777's from MCO to Joburg, Dubai, oh...and of course Barcelona!

Who's With Me?!

tsquare

12-14-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1101831)

I smell 777's from MCO to Joburg, Dubai, oh...and of course Barcelona!

Who's With Me?!

I'll throw gear for 2 of the 3 for ya Timbo!

Pro Fessional

12-14-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 320busdriver (Post 1101508)

Does anyone know where the ATL 320A bid results are?

After just shy of 25 yrs I'm really hoping I'm not on reserve again! Yikes:(

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1101573)

OUCH. What base?

More appropriate question is "OUCH. What pre-merger pilot group?" Almost 25 years as a PMDL would get him a decent line on ATL330A.

... or would make him #1 on the ATL320A list - by about 600 numbers.

hockeypilot44

12-14-2011 03:07 PM

I would need Southwest 737 hourly rate on the MD-88 (I would probably vote yes to a 20 percent raise on day 1 if offered), reserve pays same as lineholders, and vacation and training pay increased to whatever the minimum flying day is worth (5:15 right now). I would vote yes to the above. I feel my requests are extremely reasonable. This is what I would settle for after negotiating is done. This is not my opening position (it would be much higher). Anything giving up any scope is an automatic no vote from me (that includes a 100 percent raise).

gloopy

12-14-2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1101768)

What base was that? DFW or MIA?

Maybe we're intending on retaking BOS?

iceman49

12-14-2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1101811)

Ok.

How does the company benefit from only 6 months more of stability when they will get 18-30 months of "status quo" out of the Section 6 process?

Keep in mind we merged MX stores systems a few months ago and just resolved the last union integration issues a week ago from a merger that occurred almost 4 year ago.....

You have to make it worth it for everybody involved, and unfortunately the company holds 99% of the cards.

If we as a pilot group entertain an extension that is substandard then I agree we should go for the full Section 6 and skip an interim agreement.

You're right, 6 months does not benefit the company...just as a bump in pay for 18 months does not benefit without work rule improvements.

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