Hey, go easy on Fifi ;)

I thought this thread might be a record in the net for most posts so I googled it. Not even close, one has over half a million posts. Oh well.

Scope
 

Felt his should be copied here too.........Amen

"Been swamped lately, but I just wanted one last shot at emphasizing the importance of scope. I had a teleconference yesterday with attorneys from a multi-disciplined firm on another topic. After the call, I asked one who was versed in labor law why it was that courts keep deciding that unions do NOT have the right to strike over an attempt to regain losses in the scope of their work. The answer was sickeningly simple. She said that once a union voluntarily gives up areas of the work they will perform for the company; those jobs are no longer their jobs. From that point forward they are another person’s job, and as such, you cannot use the bludgeon of a strike to mandate the “stealing” of another person’s job.

If we end up not liking any sections outside of scope, we can always force a job action to fix it if management refuses to budge. If we end up not liking scope, there’s NOTHING we can do about it unless management decides to give it up voluntarily. When this TA comes out and allows more 76 seat jets to be flown by non-Delta pilots, understand that a YES vote from you means you’re not only giving Delta jobs away to other companies, but you are relinquishing your right to EVER retrieve them again. DALPA should be warning everyone of this wrinkle in labor law, but they apparently cannot do so without incurring the worry of a DFR suit.

Scope is different. Scope is not like anything else in our contract. If we send this back to the Negotiating Committee with a note saying that we’re fine with everything except you must remove ANY concessions in section 1, it would put the company in a hell of a position. If they say NO, they will have unmasked themselves as to their real plan. If they say YES, then the pilots of Delta Air Lines will have set the new industry benchmark for the end of voluntarily giving more of our jobs to another company and losing them permanently.

Think hard ladies and gentlemen. Think really hard."

Carl

Is the next AE gonna have Oil-Maker A/B on it? I'll bid it. Predictable hours plus the ability to actually get late DEC or JUN/JUL vacation.. I'm in.

Just noticed the "Automated Manuals & Bulletins" tab. Interesting that it says "Note: At this point, only Apple iPads are supported."

When they gonna dole these things out?

Maybe that's our signing bonus...LOL

Baja.

this isn't a forum, it's a chat room.

But you still gotta wear a dag gum hat.:rolleyes:

Although it's currently available for one's personal device, read the fine print. In the event of an incident/accident, your device will be confiscated. Also, if lost, must report it immediately to delta tech, so that can remotely erase the manuals locker. Way too much control of my personal device... think I'll wait til the company supplies the device. YMMV.

If you get a GS on reserve, do you get paid deadhead pay on your off day?

I agree. I'm not interested in taking "baby steps" to placate the FAA. Either turn it on with full functionality or don't. I don't want to be sitting at the end of a long table answering some lawyers questions about what I did and didn't do with MY IPad. Look what they did to the NW guys who used their laptops...and they didn't bend metal.

Too much personal liability to beta test for free without the full blessing by the Feds and DL.