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#2161
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From: E190 FO
When Delta was hiring in '07, '08 and '10 there were posts here or on other sites as to what was candidates thought or knew tripped them up on interview day. Just curious: Anyone here if the test is an issue for some, or the cog test, or is mostly the interview so far? Hard to get an impression yet since we're not hearing much as to how many are making the cut these days.
That is why I posted about watching your attitude. Personally regardless of your background I believe we are all competent enough to pass the GK and COG test, but the interview is 100% based on your personality. It's not black and white.
#2162
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From: Permanently scarred
Also just to be clear "arrogant and full of himself" were my words not the Chief Pilots. The CP just said he was let go for his attitude whatever that was. I should NOT assume that was what he meant. It could have been for any number of things regarding his attitude. Just wanted to clear the air on that.
I'll think 3-5 times next time before sharing information.
I'll think 3-5 times next time before sharing information.
#2163
We'll be lucky if the NMB doesn't declare Pinnacle pilots to be Delta pilots.
Nobody listened, but you've been right about this all along Bar.
Someday we are going to regret having two sets of pilots signing contracts with Delta.
#2165
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When Delta was hiring in '07, '08 and '10 there were posts here or on other sites as to what was candidates thought or knew tripped them up on interview day. Just curious: Anyone hear if the test is an issue for some, or the cog test, or is mostly the interview so far? Hard to get an impression yet since we're not hearing much as to how many are making the cut these days.
1 made it through day 1, wasn't invited back for day 2.
2 made it all the way through, didn't make it. It was the day 2 psych eval according to them, or their contacts. Can't remember who told them.
It can happen to anybody, anybody can have a bad day.
#2166
Funny how a slam on a more "peaceful" religion would immediately merit a barrage of defenses, but this one somehow gets a pass.
I'm not particularly religious, but I respect others' right to their choices without mocking the most sacred tenets.
PC? Nope. Just respectful.
#2167
Honestly there are plenty of highly selective positions in the armed services. In fact, military promotion is all about the "rack and stack". But that doesn't guarantee you a position in a major airline, you don't "deserve" that position, it has to be earned, and attitude is definitely part of it. I'm glad we hire people that work well with others.
#2168
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
The more you practice, the fewer bad days you have.
Back in middle school a band teacher told me "when you can play it ten times through without a mistake, or hesitation, you're ready." As a middle aged performing musician and pilot, that advice continues to serve well.
There is some pretty accurate guidance on the cog test out there. I made several little games of the test using flash cards and post it notes. My wife and I spent a couple of afternoons "playing" while I drank beer and enjoyed myself at a local pub which has a number of distractions. Scoring myself I was able to go from 20% to 80% on the memory tests with just an hour or two of practice. You'll figure out your own tricks pretty quick, whether they be word associations, or mathematical logic. I used a version of the PEG system, where numbers are turned into consonants, which can be used to build a word. Words are easier to memorize for longer periods of time and can come back after distractions. Sometimes the words make entire sentences, or stories. Here's the system I used:
0 -z,s
1 - t or,d
2 - n
3 - m
4 - r
5 - L
6 - j, ch, sh
7 - k, g, or c
8 - ƒ, v
9 - b, p
( My father used this system to remember 747-200 capacities and limitations in about 30 minutes, he was really good at it! )
Further it is easier to recall two digit numbers than single digit numbers:
IE 482516 is much easier recalled as 48 25 16
You will find what works for you the more you play with it.
Further, the more you practice your interview, the better you'll be. Spend your time on the really tough questions like, "what is the part of being a pilot you struggle with?" "What do you really need to work on ?" etc ... . Fluff answers like "being too organized" are fluff. I'm not saying it is fatal to provide fluff, but if you can answer truthfully in a way that acknowledges a real issue we face, your answer can win some major points.
My interview experience was very relaxed, fun even. For me (and I'm far from the smartest guy) it boils down to practice.
Back in middle school a band teacher told me "when you can play it ten times through without a mistake, or hesitation, you're ready." As a middle aged performing musician and pilot, that advice continues to serve well.
There is some pretty accurate guidance on the cog test out there. I made several little games of the test using flash cards and post it notes. My wife and I spent a couple of afternoons "playing" while I drank beer and enjoyed myself at a local pub which has a number of distractions. Scoring myself I was able to go from 20% to 80% on the memory tests with just an hour or two of practice. You'll figure out your own tricks pretty quick, whether they be word associations, or mathematical logic. I used a version of the PEG system, where numbers are turned into consonants, which can be used to build a word. Words are easier to memorize for longer periods of time and can come back after distractions. Sometimes the words make entire sentences, or stories. Here's the system I used:
0 -z,s
1 - t or,d
2 - n
3 - m
4 - r
5 - L
6 - j, ch, sh
7 - k, g, or c
8 - ƒ, v
9 - b, p
( My father used this system to remember 747-200 capacities and limitations in about 30 minutes, he was really good at it! )
Further it is easier to recall two digit numbers than single digit numbers:
IE 482516 is much easier recalled as 48 25 16
You will find what works for you the more you play with it.
Further, the more you practice your interview, the better you'll be. Spend your time on the really tough questions like, "what is the part of being a pilot you struggle with?" "What do you really need to work on ?" etc ... . Fluff answers like "being too organized" are fluff. I'm not saying it is fatal to provide fluff, but if you can answer truthfully in a way that acknowledges a real issue we face, your answer can win some major points.
My interview experience was very relaxed, fun even. For me (and I'm far from the smartest guy) it boils down to practice.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 10-25-2013 at 12:41 PM.
#2169
Hear hear. I find that offensive as well.
Funny how a slam on a more "peaceful" religion would immediately merit a barrage of defenses, but this one somehow gets a pass.
I'm not particularly religious, but I respect others' right to their choices without mocking the most sacred tenets.
PC? Nope. Just respectful.
Funny how a slam on a more "peaceful" religion would immediately merit a barrage of defenses, but this one somehow gets a pass.
I'm not particularly religious, but I respect others' right to their choices without mocking the most sacred tenets.
PC? Nope. Just respectful.
#2170
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Two of those mentioned were very good friends of mine and did the prep. And I was scratching my head that they weren't offered the job.
And as far as your last point, ALL but one said what you did. Great experience, friendly, just wish they had done better. Only 1 had a bad experience. And of course, we can ALL speculate that maybe it was him. Don't know, don't care. He ended up somewhere else anyway that ALSO has a pretty decent filter and screening process. I was simply answering the guys question of if he knew anybody with a TBNT and in which part it happened.
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