Delta Hiring News
11-05-2013 | 04:26 PM
#2481
Can't abide NAI
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Well, the sitting MEC Chair for the Delta pilots when that deal went down put his number at the bottom of his recent political letter for your convenience ... if you would like to provide your opinion.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...ml#post1513676
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...ml#post1513676
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11-05-2013 | 04:36 PM
#2482
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Sitting SC at the Five Towns
11-05-2013 | 05:05 PM
#2483
Banned
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Thanks for the answers, guys. It all comes down to the fact that Delta can ultimately hire who they want. I'm glad we didn't expend any effort to lower minimums. On the other hand, this agreement could be taken to an extreme: Regional airline Chatthoochiepoop pilots could agree to work for minimum wage (and thus drive down pilot compensation across the board) -- in exchange for preferential interviews.
Sets a bad precedent.
Sets a bad precedent.
11-05-2013 | 05:45 PM
#2484
Line Holder
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So let me get this straight.
I'm worrying my ass of that if, by some freak of nature I'm fortunate enough to get a call from Delta, my "average" GPA will get me sent home. Meanwhile the 9E SSP guy sitting next to me could have a GED and breeze through?
So with that being said I was better off staying at 9E, burning my diploma and never mentioning the fact that I went to college?
Am I right?
Seems fair
I'm worrying my ass of that if, by some freak of nature I'm fortunate enough to get a call from Delta, my "average" GPA will get me sent home. Meanwhile the 9E SSP guy sitting next to me could have a GED and breeze through?
So with that being said I was better off staying at 9E, burning my diploma and never mentioning the fact that I went to college?
Am I right?
Seems fair
11-05-2013 | 06:00 PM
#2485
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So let me get this straight.
I'm worrying my ass of that if, by some freak of nature I'm fortunate enough to get a call from Delta, my "average" GPA will get me sent home. Meanwhile the 9E SSP guy sitting next to me could have a GED and breeze through?
So with that being said I was better off staying at 9E, burning my diploma and never mentioning the fact that I went to college?
Am I right?
Seems fair
I'm worrying my ass of that if, by some freak of nature I'm fortunate enough to get a call from Delta, my "average" GPA will get me sent home. Meanwhile the 9E SSP guy sitting next to me could have a GED and breeze through?
So with that being said I was better off staying at 9E, burning my diploma and never mentioning the fact that I went to college?
Am I right?
Seems fair
On another note, yes maybe staying at 9E would have been better haha. I was west coast and applied for west coast regionals when I was low-time. Had I known what was up today I would have applied at Pinnacle/Mesaba/Compass because I could potentially be at mainline now. But I didn't have that crystal ball and now like you I'm competing with people that simply made a lucky regional choice.
11-05-2013 | 06:07 PM
#2486
Bracing for Fallacies
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
I agree, I failed 2 classes early on in college and it brought my average down a lot. I learned a lot from it and it made me a better student in the long-run. However I'm very much concerned about how the failures and "overall GPA" would be viewed by a major interview panel. It would certainly be frustrating to see that requirement gone for some.
On another note, yes maybe staying at 9E would have been better haha. I was west coast and applied for west coast regionals when I was low-time. Had I known what was up today I would have applied at Pinnacle/Mesaba/Compass because I could potentially be at mainline now. But I didn't have that crystal ball and now like you I'm competing with people that simply made a lucky regional choice.
On another note, yes maybe staying at 9E would have been better haha. I was west coast and applied for west coast regionals when I was low-time. Had I known what was up today I would have applied at Pinnacle/Mesaba/Compass because I could potentially be at mainline now. But I didn't have that crystal ball and now like you I'm competing with people that simply made a lucky regional choice.
I also don't know many premerger Pinnacle or Mesaba people counting themselves as lucky right now.
11-05-2013 | 06:11 PM
#2487
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True, things aren't always perfect. I am happy with the career decisions I've made because I made each one carefully with the best information I had at the time. While I certainly wish I was at the top of a flow-through list, I am happy with my efforts and I hope they pay off at some point either way.
11-05-2013 | 06:25 PM
#2488
Bracing for Fallacies
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
True, things aren't always perfect. I am happy with the career decisions I've made because I made each one carefully with the best information I had at the time. While I certainly wish I was at the top of a flow-through list, I am happy with my efforts and I hope they pay off at some point either way.
11-05-2013 | 07:04 PM
#2489
:-)
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It was negotiated via the 9E MEC chairman, DL, and Lee Moak. DALPA was not invited to the meetings (and my understanding is not privy to them even occurring).
The specific wording of the bridge agreement requires anyone invited to the SSP to meet all of the hiring requirements, one of which is the degree. One can only wonder the lawsuits that can come from not following the letter of the bridge agreement.
The SSP folks count toward the preferential hiring of DCI pilots.
The specific wording of the bridge agreement requires anyone invited to the SSP to meet all of the hiring requirements, one of which is the degree. One can only wonder the lawsuits that can come from not following the letter of the bridge agreement.
The SSP folks count toward the preferential hiring of DCI pilots.
I can't wait for scheduling to call me one day, saying I'm junior manned under the "secret contract", and if I refuse, I'll be put on double secret probation.
11-05-2013 | 07:41 PM
#2490
Bracing for Fallacies
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
True, things aren't always perfect. I am happy with the career decisions I've made because I made each one carefully with the best information I had at the time. While I certainly wish I was at the top of a flow-through list, I am happy with my efforts and I hope they pay off at some point either way.
If there is a redeeming quality, Delta gets full access to one's employee record, which is what now? A decade plus of part 121 flying, which must include captain time? To my mind, that person is no longer an unknown quantity proving themself in the matter of a one day interview. I imagine there will be more programs like this industry wide in short time, as well.
I really wish there was less animosity between pilot groups, and instead more reaching out between regionals and between mainline pilots with their connection pilots.
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