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#4601
To new hires recently off probation -- are you off once you do your 3rd chief pilot meeting and then tick off that 400th hour? Other than ALPA dues beginning, any concrete method to show you're off probation? Letter? Icrew sign-off? Ticker tape parade? Gold watch? Or just dues and captains no longer prompted to fill out reviews?

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#4602
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You are contractually off at the 400 hour point. For any new hire out there keep in mind that the standard for termination is not any different on or off probation. The company must have cause. Delta has one of the lowest if not the very lowest overall termination rate. In many years it's zero.
#4603
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Heard something similar as well from someone else. Here's hoping it's 20/wk 4 weeks a month!
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#4604
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Most are interviews to gauge our experiences. They go over some things like CQ bidding, commuting issues, or anything else you bring up. It's low key and relaxed.
I'll have my 400 by next Tuesday which will have taken me just over 5 months of line flying. Hired Dec '14 on the 73N. Been flying ever reserve day plus this month I had a line. I did YS a few high block trips to help my cause.
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#4605
To new hires recently off probation -- are you off once you do your 3rd chief pilot meeting and then tick off that 400th hour? Other than ALPA dues beginning, any concrete method to show you're off probation? Letter? Icrew sign-off? Ticker tape parade? Gold watch? Or just dues and captains no longer prompted to fill out reviews?
Later on you'll get a congratulatory note from Mike Donatelli (or player to be named at a later date) and the dues start up automatically. Very efficient on that item.
At 1 year you'll get a note in your V-file from the CPO telling you to stop by to get your 1-year pin.
#4606
I had my last CP visit like you refer to on Wednesday. I was told doesn't matter if you're airborne or on the ground, the moment you cross 400 you're off probation. The only other thing he said that takes place is some paperwork we never see happen.
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You are contractually off at the 400 hour point. For any new hire out there keep in mind that the standard for termination is not any different on or off probation. The company must have cause. Delta has one of the lowest if not the very lowest overall termination rate. In many years it's zero.
1. On my 1st meeting right after OE with the grand total of 2 trips under my belt, the CP talked to me about his concern with DAL pilots taxiing too slowly. That was really weird.
2. On my 2nd meeting I was asked about reserve in NYC (even though I already had a line). The CP was pretty out of touch on how difficult it was for somebody in a Kew Gardens crash pad to get to EWR. He had no idea how much it cost or how long it took. I got the feeling I should've just said 'reserve is awesome, no problems at all'. That said, as far as I can tell there have been no negative impacts to my job for having spoken the truth.
3. I know it probably wasn't their intent, but based on the significant amount of time dedicated to sick leave during these meetings, I'd bet many guys on probation are scared to use sick leave. I never got sick so it never came up, but unless I was at death's door I probably would've flown sick.
Time to 400 hours depends entirely on airframe and schedule. I'll make it to 400 hours 10 months from my date of hire. For me that was 3 months INDOC, sims, and OE, 2 months of reserve with very little flying, and 5 months flying the line.
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#4607
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"Not sure how you could do it on the ground since the 400 hours is just block time, but I get the point, thanks."
You log block time while taxiing outbound and inbound so, yes, you can cross 400 on the ground.
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You log block time while taxiing outbound and inbound so, yes, you can cross 400 on the ground.
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#4608
True, thanks again. I guess since most of my trips are avg. daily credit I never think of taxi time as block.
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