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Old 07-29-2014 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
How can anyone say, in July of 2014, that there will be a downturn in 2017, that is just nuts.

Sure, there -might- be a downturn, but there also might be an upturn.

And a Black Swan might fly out of my ***...

Flip a coin, you have just as good a chance (50%) of being right!

Listen to me, I'm an Economic Expert!

Oh no, wait, I'm just an airline pilot! BUT BUT BUT...

The Economy may, or may not, improve, or it may even decline, in 2017. We had better capitulate NOW, before it's too late!!

Because...THE SKY IS FALLING...wait...it's not?

Well then...THE SKY COULD BE FALLING....in 2017!
Cue Goldfinger. I'll bet they dust him off and drag him back out to help sell their "deal." Lowered expectations all around... it's what DALPA does best. Don't fall for it.
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Old 07-29-2014 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
I have heard the same from one of the ATL reps. Maybe not verbatim, but pretty close to my recollection. Need a quick deal because the downturn is coming, don't recall anything though of trading PS for hard raises.
Interesting. Nothing of the sort my reps, verbally or in writing.
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Old 07-29-2014 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Alan you know each and every rep. Call them all and show everyone how wrong I am and how I make stuff up.
While I do know who .most of the reps are, I limit myself to providing input to my reps in person and to the MEC as a whole via the survey and my ratification vote.

For the record, I have zero interest proving you or anyone else wrong. I only ever seek to ferret out facts and whine about the occasional sniping that goes on.
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Old 07-29-2014 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Cue Goldfinger. I'll bet they dust him off and drag him back out to help sell their "deal." Lowered expectations all around... it's what DALPA does best. Don't fall for it.
^^^^ Now that was funny. Is there a website for him to go to now and tell us that 2% raises are money in "our" pockets?

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Old 07-29-2014 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
How can anyone say, in July of 2014, that there will be a downturn in 2017, that is just nuts.

Sure, there -might- be a downturn, but there also might be an upturn.

And a Black Swan might fly out of my ***...

Flip a coin, you have just as good a chance (50%) of being right!

Listen to me, I'm an Economic Expert!

Oh no, wait, I'm just an airline pilot! BUT BUT BUT...

The Economy may, or may not, improve, or it may even decline, in 2017. We had better capitulate NOW, before it's too late!!

Because...THE SKY IS FALLING...wait...it's not?

Well then...THE SKY COULD BE FALLING....in 2017!
Timbo

In C2012 they said we left nothing on the table. Amazing how ALPA E & FA could not predict the coming billions in record profits then.

Now the see a downturn in 2017.

They couldn't see 6 months into the future, now they can see 3 years into it.

Amazing.

Jerry
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Old 07-29-2014 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Amazing how ALPA E & FA could not predict the coming billions in record profits then. Now the see a downturn in 2017. They couldn't see 6 months into the future, now they can see 3 years into it.
You're saying that this prediction is coming from ALPA E&FA?
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Old 07-29-2014 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
While Jerry can be a tad dramatic at times, I have heard the same from one of the ATL reps. Maybe not verbatim, but pretty close to my recollection. Need a quick deal because the downturn is coming, don't recall anything though of trading PS for hard raises.
Is this particular ATL rep the one that posts here occasionally?

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Old 07-29-2014 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
You're saying that this prediction is coming from ALPA E&FA?
Is that not where our reps get their economic and financial analysis advice from? Or are you saying we have reps who are listening to guys like Goldfinger instead? *

* disclaimer: I'm going with the assumption that some of our reps are actually touting this economic downturn in 2017 as reported by Jerry. You may not like his point of view but I've never known of him to just make something up. Plus, it sounds exactly like something they would do.
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Old 07-29-2014 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Is this particular ATL rep the one that posts here occasionally?

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Wouldn't surprise me. I believe he considers himself an economic expert.

Like someone else posted... consistently and accurately predicting the economy is impossible. Anyone who tells you he can is either lying to you or has deluded himself into thinking he can do the impossible. And I don't want someone representing me who exhibits either of those characteristics.
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Old 07-29-2014 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
He makes them up. He did it on the old forum all the time.
Please sailingfud. There is nobody on this forum that pulls things out of their arse more than you. Nobody. Your most recent display of completely making something up was your statement that the AE results will be out Monday afternoon.

Carl
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