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Old 05-26-2021 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JacksonThunder
Interesting turn of events.

Delta Update:
ALPA will officially file a MEC grievance to halt the operation of RJs over 188, stating:
"Delta's management kept our most junior pilots on roller coaster ride for months, threatening furloughs while operating excess RJs".
Source: Email to members.

So DALPA wants to ground all of DCI?
Maybe we can negotiate hooked on phonics as part of the flow!
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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JacksonThunder
Interesting turn of events.

Delta Update:
ALPA will officially file a MEC grievance to halt the operation of RJs over 188, stating:
"Delta's management kept our most junior pilots on roller coaster ride for months, threatening furloughs while operating excess RJs".
Source: Email to members.

So DALPA wants to ground all of DCI?
paid roller coaster ride. I think we all were on that ride. It might be best to throw all this in the trash. Seeing the reaction from some these people makes me want to bag it. Delta won’t be able to staff 9E at the going rate. Let them and their union figure it out.

Sure was nice to see all the reactions though. Good time to shut down all the flow threads.

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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer
Maybe we can negotiate hooked on phonics as part of the flow!
Wouldn’t that be grand.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumyum
paid roller coaster ride. I think we all were on that ride. The me me me attitude.
2,558 Delta pilots held WARN letters, that’s the point he’s making. Endeavor said as early as June furloughs were off the table.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
2,558 Delta pilots held WARN letters, that’s the point he’s making. Endeavor said as early as June furloughs were off the table.
I’m completely aware of what delta did. Have plenty of close friends over there. Just saying this time last year we all thought our jobs were gonzo. It wasn’t one particular pilot group. The entire industry/nation was in panic mode.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 12:01 PM
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A flow is a great backup, it’s something you can keep in your back pocket incase you don’t get hired with the carrier of your choice. That being said I don’t blame 9E guys for wanting it. I will warn you guys though, this flow will hurt the pilots who are right in the middle of the list. All pilots who are junior captains trying to get their 1000 hours and want to go to delta will get screwed. Assuming youre qualified, your number could of come up this year for an interview with delta under the current program. Instead you’re going to have to wait until you can flow. I promise you delta will not hire 9E pilots outside the flow. Ask me how I know this? This same exact thing happened to me at an American wholly owned. Also don’t expect the number of flows to increase from 20 a month, that 20 pilots a month is in language of LOA 9.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
No, I assume that the 9E MEC will not let this go to MEMRAT and even if they do it will pass and it will be up to DALPA to win in arbitration. I always expect pilots to vote for what is in their best interest, I just don't see how selling mainline jobs for regional jobs is in anybody's best interest. Think of how many retirements are coming up in the next 10 years -- a flow might sound nice now but you don't need it. Don't kick yourself in 10 years for having sold scope for pennies on the dollar and the false security blanket of some flow that you might or might not ever get to use.
again, we aren’t selling scope. DALPA and NW did that years ago. You just want 9E to magically undo that for you (hint: we can’t.)

but if you succeed in doing it yourselves, I’m good with that too. It benefits us all for you to do that.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
Your personal pathetic hatred towards SkyWest will reach new heights when DALPA wins their grievance in arbitration leading to Delta management having to choose which 35 large RJ’s to remove. 9E will be the easy candidate as DL doesn’t want to blow up a CPA.
Seriously. The planes are ALREADY PARKED. They don’t need to remove what is already removed...
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Old 05-26-2021 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
It's not anger, it's factual information. The song remains the same. This will be your problem soon enough.
How? DALPA wins arbitration, we lose nothing from what we currently have. DL wins, we gain flow. How is it our problem soon enough?
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Old 05-26-2021 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FreightWasScary
a Delta pilot paying union dues isn’t a DALPA pilot? I apologize I must be narrow minded. We can chat again when you flow and we can go flying together. Might be a while… cheers
DALPA pilot hardly = DALPA provided...
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