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Old 05-25-2021 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
Please explain why OO and/or YX management would even answer that phone call? the RJ’s will be gone by the end of the summer via arbitration.

The fact your ALPA and your pilots have continuously used that as an excuse, I’d actually like to hear that answer.

Not being sarcastic, what am I missing?
why would OO not take it they have over 5k pilots 20 a month is nothing to have the only flow to delta? It would also keep pilots at OO? What am I missing?
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Old 05-25-2021 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mkitrn
why would OO not take it they have over 5k pilots 20 a month is nothing to have the only flow to delta? It would also keep pilots at OO? What am I missing?
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
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Old 05-25-2021 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Well, I guess Delta pilots shouldn't have given up scope in the first place. We are being used as pawns in this game. You're right, Delta needs the 35 RJs. If they we turn this down, they will just take it to Skywest or Republic. They'll surely take it.
I’ve also previously mentioned but never received a valid response. How on earth will dal management just bring this “flow” to another (not wholly owned) regional?? This especially considering the fact that RAH and OO do flying for more than just Delta.
As for the first half of your post I’m sorry you feel that way but it’s a loser mentality that I’ve seen a lot on this thread. Not calling you specifically a loser but the thought that “Well we have to do this or else...” Or else what? They’re gonna #Comair2021 you? AYFKM?! Again staffing issues galore have put you guys in a position with the leverage. This argument that well “deltas just gonna make an example out of us”, is exactly what they want you to think so you sellout the industry.
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Old 05-25-2021 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
Please explain why OO and/or YX management would even answer that phone call? the RJ’s will be gone by the end of the summer via arbitration.

The fact your ALPA and your pilots have continuously used that as an excuse, I’d actually like to hear that answer.

Not being sarcastic, what am I missing?
You do realize any additional RJs are NOT coming to 9E right? They already took seats out of a bunch of our 900s.
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Old 05-25-2021 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogecoin
You do realize any additional RJs are NOT coming to 9E right? They already took seats out of a bunch of our 900s.
Yes I’m aware of that fact, still doesn’t answer my question though does it?
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Old 05-25-2021 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mkitrn
why would OO not take it they have over 5k pilots 20 a month is nothing to have the only flow to delta? It would also keep pilots at OO? What am I missing?
The shareholders of OO would never ever allow a 90% flush of the pilot group. The choices are either 9E takes the deal, or mgt is forced to start a new regional by taking a third of our fleet.
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Old 05-25-2021 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The shareholders of OO would never ever allow a 90% flush of the pilot group. The choices are either 9E takes the deal, or mgt is forced to start a new regional by taking a third of our fleet.
☝️ Well, at least someone actually has a clue.
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Old 05-25-2021 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mkitrn
why would OO not take it they have over 5k pilots 20 a month is nothing to have the only flow to delta? It would also keep pilots at OO? What am I missing?
You’re missing the fact that Endeavor Air has been marketed strongly as the “premier regional” to go to if you want to fly for Delta one day. So they have to disregard years of building up your company only to then give a faster more direct route (to delta) to a company that they do not own and also flies directly for their competitors.
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Old 05-25-2021 | 07:41 PM
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Maybe Skywest or Republic wouldn't take a flow down- but Endeavor saying no to a flow to Delta would be a sure way make an agreement on contractual progression much more difficult, if not impossible.
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Old 05-25-2021 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Well, I guess Delta pilots shouldn't have given up scope in the first place. We are being used as pawns in this game. You're right, Delta needs the 35 RJs. If they we turn this down, they will just take it to Skywest or Republic. They'll surely take it.


No, they won’t take it. Why in earth would OO or YX allow a flow down of DAL pilots without a flow up? Because if they are offered a flow up, we get it too, complements of the bridge agreement.

DAL needs the 35 RJ’s way more than we need this POS TA. It does nothing for us. I want a vote, and my vote is no!

If they really want to gamble on LOA 9, they would give us flow with no take backs. There is no risk, no downside for Delta. I would be a yes vote if this wasn’t tied to SCOPE.
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