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100%. It is disappointing that some of the loudest voices for this rush deal are folks who have had multiple tries for DL and could have moved on to the big leagues when the hiring market was booming. Instead they expect this deal to be passed expeditiously to get their seat in class before the music stops, at any cost to the pilots remaining.

maximus2015

And what is wrong with that?

JulesWinfield

There's no cost to anyone. If the flow continues, everyone on property at the time of the agreement will flow. If this goes on until the last person flows, it clears out the seniority list at a rate of 240 senior pilots a year. This means faster upgrades and better quality of life for the first person hired after the signing. Sure, there's some super senior guys who won't leave, but that's fine, the next person up will go.

If the flow is stopped due to arbitration or something else, then at least it cleared out X amount of senior pilots, while also opening the door to a future contractually guaranteed pathway to Delta. What are you crying about?

mkitrn

Does having a class date count what counts under this agreement to be included in flow?

Svfr

Only if that class date is before the final agreement is signed

Casualinterest

must be in class prior to date of signing

Beehan

Some people in a June 7 class are about to be disappointed, but it seems we aren't necessarily expecting this flow to stick around due to arbitration, and plan A should be applying off the street anyways. Hopefully the DGI will remain also.

Bucking Bar

Not true.

First, the agreement has not been ratified and ratification is not assumed. If Delta is rolling out it's strategic preparedness and strike committee (as they are this week) and setting up polling and registration for picketing, that suggests pressure is ramping up on this pretty quickly. This issue has unified the Delta pilots.

The language in the agreement states that it is entirely rendered void if the company does not win its' scope grab.

As I've written elsewhere, the language is below the standard of the average PTA bake sale. This thing is a trite ploy to swing a minor arbitration and was not well coordinated; it is very weak. If faced with Delta pilots in the streets the company may simply decide "not worth it." (that is what I'd do with good 717's sitting on the pavement) I'd expect many of your pilots to be hired to fly those jets.

Wonder how 9E pilots who flowed will feel about Delta scope once they are Delta pilots. Obviously, some are cheering for the Delta pilots to lose the very job protections that ensure the most junior of Delta pilots have jobs.

Beege1

Just curious were an Oct 08 hire sits on the seniority list now?

Casualinterest

that's block award territory, so it's a little jumbled. But top 500 for sure