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Old 05-26-2021, 08:31 AM
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I’m pretty sure that individual was a ex 9E pilot that decided to do the prep on his off days. DALPA did not provide that.
a Delta pilot paying union dues isn’t a DALPA pilot? I apologize I must be narrow minded. We can chat again when you flow and we can go flying together. Might be a while… cheers
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:34 AM
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well if you’ve been around 9E long enough they’ve provided a Delta pilot volunteer whose led the DGI prep course on his days off commuting to various bases to help people like you get hired at Delta. Its unfortunate because a handful of endeavor pilots I’ve spoken to understand the ball is actually in your court to vote no and get something better. We will circle back when 80 pilots flow and you’re looking at the guy or gal sitting next to you wondering what happened when the flow gets canceled. Don’t be a bunch of sellouts. DALPA has done a lot for me as an endeavor pilot you’re just too narrow minded to see it.
So Endeavor should vote no, and hope that management counters with 30 a month in the flow, the we vote yes?
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:36 AM
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It's not anger, it's factual information. The song remains the same. This will be your problem soon enough.
Well that’s a really dumb response. And from your response I’d say that your song remains the same! Please direct your anger, or factual information as you call it to your MEC and to Delta management. I hope that your grievance turns out the way you want it to. I really do. But please leave us out of it. We all were just as surprised as you to find out that this flow agreement was tied to 35 airplanes in the middle of a scope dispute.
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:39 AM
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a Delta pilot paying union dues isn’t a DALPA pilot? I apologize I must be narrow minded. We can chat again when you flow and we can go flying together. Might be a while… cheers
DALPA did not go out of its way to provide that resource. That is like saying ALPA provides volunteer resources for a local church when a ALPA pilot volunteers on their days
off. I highly doubt DALPA compensated that individual or provided any type of incentive.
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:42 AM
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It’s a genuine question. DALPA wants to protect scope and help 9E pilots? Advocate for a staple.
Advocate for a STAPLe with a fence and 20 a month with same requirements as the flow but have a DAL seniority number and have something to come back to if 90% lose their job on the flow down. It eliminates scope at EDV and takes away the whipsaw atleast here at EDV/9E.
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:44 AM
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Advocate for a STAPLe with a fence and 20 a month with same requirements as the flow but have a DAL seniority number and have something to come back to if 90% lose their job on the flow down. It eliminates scope at EDV and takes away the whipsaw atleast here at EDV/9E.
Well a staple wouldn’t require metering right? We’d all just end up as Delta pilots from day 1. Basically taking the list, along with the aircraft, and attaching it to their seniority list/PWA. In theory, Delta pilots would be able to bid to the CRJ9 as well.
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:46 AM
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well if you’ve been around 9E long enough they’ve provided a Delta pilot volunteer whose led the DGI prep course on his days off commuting to various bases to help people like you get hired at Delta. Its unfortunate because a handful of endeavor pilots I’ve spoken to understand the ball is actually in your court to vote no and get something better. We will circle back when 80 pilots flow and you’re looking at the guy or gal sitting next to you wondering what happened when the flow gets canceled. Don’t be a bunch of sellouts. DALPA has done a lot for me as an endeavor pilot you’re just too narrow minded to see it.
A few guys volunteering to run an interview prep seminar (that didn't even yield very good results) is not in any way on the same level as what you're asking of us. If we say no to this deal we may very well end up out on the street. There's nothing DALPA has done (or realistically could do) for us that could compensate us for being unemployed. The Delta arrogance on display here is staggering. Now excuse me while I go update my United application...
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:47 AM
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Hypothetical scenario. Would DL pilots be willing to advocate for a staple if we were willing to turn this TA down?
DALPA shouldn’t be trying to get EDVALPA a staple, DALPA should use their resources to bring the flying back in house and leave the engine to DAL. DALPA does not negotiate who DAL hires. Just like EDVALPA doesn’t negotiate scope. Fair is fair.
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:49 AM
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You want to talk about wrong information, please inform me how DL would “just walk over to OO or YX” and slap on a flow back. That statement has been made by your representatives correct? Of course nobody, including you can give an answer to how that would even happen.
actually, apparently delta told our guys that they believed they could place the deal anywhere but chose us for simplicity.
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:52 AM
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A few guys volunteering to run an interview prep seminar (that didn't even yield very good results) is not in any way on the same level as what you're asking of us. If we say no to this deal we may very well end up out on the street. There's nothing DALPA has done (or realistically could do) for us that could compensate us for being unemployed. The Delta arrogance on display here is staggering. Now excuse me while I go update my United application...
The ignorance really is amazing.
Does anyone know when the MEC will ratify the TA?
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