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Old 07-21-2021 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO
I was former 9E and have a lot of friends there, why do you care so much that I care? I just don’t like when people say things that aren’t credible and when they try they don’t back there statements up…because the union said so isn’t factual

you act like your in the know and you aren’t…you pop your head on our boards and do the same. No credibility over there either…

The CAP program is creditable. I trust my MEC when they say a flow/career advancement program was about to be inked.
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Old 07-22-2021 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
The ****er is flowing
My favorite is some of these SR treat the FO like S### CA’s will now have to be FO’s again after they have not sat in the R seat in decades! Oh to be a fly and see all of the humble pie being consumed !!!!😂
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Old 07-22-2021 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JacksonThunder
Requesting a citation.
Read the MOU associated with LOA 125. It's paragraph F.
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Old 07-22-2021 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO
from what I understand all the flows are going to be held back 90 days per the agreement. Same thing they did at Compass
Delta is supposed to offer class dates for August, September, and October, for the first 60 pilots. The first class will obviously go, because they will have seniority numbers prior to the arbitration decision. The next two classes could be canceled if the arbitrator specifically says they can't go. However, I don't think that is going to happen, so the first 60 pilots are probably going to flow after their 3 month hold back. After that, if the flow is canceled, the rest of the pilots are SOL.
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Old 07-22-2021 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO
never heard of that and I have several friends involved in Pilot development (pilot selection, recruitment, and propel)at DL…they’ve never heard of it either…that’s the group that onboards and negotiates all pathway programs to DL…never was such a thing
You'll live longer if you ignore some of the things Jackson says.

That being said, the CAP was the deal we are about to have before covid. But it was far from a done deal. And it's likely the deal we will get for new hires if the flow holds up. At least that's what our DO said
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Old 07-23-2021 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JacksonThunder
It’s widely believed delta will win the arbitration anyway.
Says who?

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Old 07-23-2021 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Says who?

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says Jackson Thunder…..
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Old 07-23-2021 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Says who?

filler
Widely believed by the pilots, is what he must be getting at.

Truth is if delta and deltaalpa don't find an agreement together and prove we are adults, the arbitrator will probably honk us both a little bit. Both sides are acting like tough guys right now, my guess is the arbitrator is trying to figure out what it's going to take short of knocking our heads together to move forward. This is just a guess

I don't know what managements deal is, this seems like a clear violation to me, trying to sharp shoot our contract and ignoring intent and past practice. They probably have a point too but i fail to see it. Im surprised the arbitrator didnt hint to Delta to get it's head screwed on straight, but seeing as how they didn't, he's probably looking for us both to give a little.
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Old 07-23-2021 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
Widely believed by the pilots, is what he must be getting at.

Truth is if delta and deltaalpa don't find an agreement together and prove we are adults, the arbitrator will probably honk us both a little bit. Both sides are acting like tough guys right now, my guess is the arbitrator is trying to figure out what it's going to take short of knocking our heads together to move forward. This is just a guess

I don't know what managements deal is, this seems like a clear violation to me, trying to sharp shoot our contract and ignoring intent and past practice. They probably have a point too but i fail to see it. Im surprised the arbitrator didnt hint to Delta to get it's head screwed on straight, but seeing as how they didn't, he's probably looking for us both to give a little.
It’s not like they can meet in the middle and say “fly 17.5 RJs”. There will probably be a remedy for the Delta pilots. Throw more money at them, that’ll fix it.
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Old 07-23-2021 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JacksonThunder
It’s not like they can meet in the middle and say “fly 17.5 RJs”. There will probably be a remedy for the Delta pilots. Throw more money at them, that’ll fix it.
I mean .. They might. We don't really know what arbitration will result in. The real question is what happens to the loa if the arbitrator rules in a compromise. My guess is the loa becomes void since it's not entirely enforceable
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