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Old 03-22-2017 | 06:10 AM
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Some were aviation support (logistics, QC, etc.), but many were not. Most of the jobs I was looking at wanted a degree (any) plus a certain amount of time working in that particular field.

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Which jobs were those? Were the degrees required not in the specific field of work?
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Old 03-22-2017 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
I joined the GUARD as Navigator/WSO and no degree. Just had to promise to get a degree within 8 years after joining. It was a delayed degree entry program.

Something to think about for those that do not have a degree. If we ever get a flow but DAL still has a degree requirement then all expenses for getting a degree are tax deductible since it is a requirement to get the job.
I was active duty. Pretty sure there is no delayed degree program for the regular Air Force. I wish I had been smart enough to join the guard first, rather than at the end of my career. Many things are better in The Guard.
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Old 03-22-2017 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Here's the most ironic part of regional v. mainline. Let's say you fly the 200. You have 5 flights today, and an average of 40 pax per flight. Let's see, that's 5x4 and add the zero (college degree stuff)--ok 200 passengers and 2 or 3/5 landings.

Mainline dude flies the 7ER one leg across the country with a load of 168 passengers and gets 0/1 or 1/1 landing.

Nope, I'll; go ahead and say it. Regional pilots PROBABLY have more experience than mainline pilots by way of takeoff/landing cycles, which btw raises our safety exponentially and measurably, and maybe-just-maybe some of us fly more passengers than our superiors, so-to-speak.
I used to be a lurker but registered just to say Bravo this is spot on.
I have a lot of friends that moved on to big brother and can attest to the above statement.
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Old 03-22-2017 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
And don't get me started on situational awareness. I'll keep my comments away from the cockpit and just say, regional pilots stand either in front of or behind their luggage on escalators. Mainline pilots stand beside their luggage so as to not let anyone pass. haha. Go ahead, see for yourself.
One more "close to the bullseye post"

Also full lights on as you take the runway at night without any regard for the plane on the other side waiting .
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Old 03-22-2017 | 06:59 AM
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Please stop giving out this untrue "advice". That's a quick way to end up paying a lot of penalties when you get caught. Obtaining a degree is not a tax deduction, save for things like the Hope credit. That's akin to telling pilots they can claim their tips paid to van drivers as itemized deductions.

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Something to think about for those that do not have a degree. If we ever get a flow but DAL still has a degree requirement then all expenses for getting a degree are tax deductible since it is a requirement to get the job.
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Old 03-22-2017 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
That's akin to telling pilots they can claim their tips paid to van drivers as itemized deductions.

https://www.ezperdiem.com/article/get_article_information/25-flight-crew-tax-deduction-examples.html

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Old 03-22-2017 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Please stop giving out this untrue "advice". That's a quick way to end up paying a lot of penalties when you get caught. Obtaining a degree is not a tax deduction, save for things like the Hope credit. That's akin to telling pilots they can claim their tips paid to van drivers as itemized deductions.
If I am wrong ok but I was told anything that is required to get the job is tax deductible. If you are working someplace like in Endeavor and DAL "requires" you to get a degree why would in not be considered a job related expense for a flow to DAL?
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Old 03-22-2017 | 07:30 AM
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Straight from the IRS:
https://www.irs.gov/uac/tax-benefits...rmation-center
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Old 03-22-2017 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
Your link might not support your claim:

"Education Required by Employer or by Law

Education you need to meet the minimum educational requirements for your present trade or business is not qualifying work-related education. Once you have met the minimum educational requirements for your job, your employer or the law may require you to get more education. This additional education is qualifying work-related education if all three of the following requirements are met.

-It is required for you to keep your present salary, status or job.
-The requirement serves a business purpose of your employer.
-The education is not part of a program that will qualify you for a new trade or business.

When you get more education than your employer or the law requires, the additional education can be qualifying work-related education only if it maintains or improves skills required in your present work."

I would say you meet the 1st requirement ONLY if flow was the only option (i.e. Endeavor going away) otherwise you could keep your present job without the degree.
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Old 03-22-2017 | 07:39 AM
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Paying to get a degree to get a job is not a job expense. Taking classes to stay current if require by your employer is a job expense. You might even be able to claim the classes if you were working on a degree that will eventually allow you to move to a higher pay table within the same employer. Because when you flow or interview with the parent airline you are switching employers you can not claim their requirement as a job related expense at your current employer.

I am not a CPA or other tax professional, so go ahead and try to claim it, but if you get audited, I don't believe it would pass the sniff check.
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