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03-22-2017 | 02:53 AM
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You have probably read a study that is being put out by Universities, about how a college degree is required. This is passive advertising. However, in reality it doesn't exist this way. I don't know of any profession other than airline pilot that require non-specific degrees as a hard skill. Yes, it may be such where a degree is a competitive requirement, but you will find the employer always lists that as "college preferred".
Delta has hired lucky individuals without the degree, and they seem to be successful, since none have been sent back to 9E yet.
Delta has hired lucky individuals without the degree, and they seem to be successful, since none have been sent back to 9E yet.
03-22-2017 | 04:33 AM
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Dude... you're missing the point. I understand where you're coming from. However, what you're trying to justify is discrimination against hard working folks that don't have a degree... So what you're saying is "well, all the guys that have a degree your better than those that don't so you get to flow to Delta! 
... while the rest of the non-degree losers work at the Regional for the rest of their lives". It makes zero sense man. If there is a "flow" or whatever you want to call it in the future. It needs to be fair for everyone, in order of seniority period.
No age, or degree discrimination. If you possess the ability the fly an aircraft in a safe manner that happens to say "Delta Connection" on it, and fly into the same airport as mainline. In my opinion you are more than capable of flying an aircraft that says "Delta" on it into the same airports as Delta Connection.
This of course is all talk. Nothing we do our say will change what Delta does and I respect that. It's their airline they can pick and choose. However, if we "flow" we all flow equally, that's the only fair way to do it.
... while the rest of the non-degree losers work at the Regional for the rest of their lives". It makes zero sense man. If there is a "flow" or whatever you want to call it in the future. It needs to be fair for everyone, in order of seniority period.No age, or degree discrimination. If you possess the ability the fly an aircraft in a safe manner that happens to say "Delta Connection" on it, and fly into the same airport as mainline. In my opinion you are more than capable of flying an aircraft that says "Delta" on it into the same airports as Delta Connection.
This of course is all talk. Nothing we do our say will change what Delta does and I respect that. It's their airline they can pick and choose. However, if we "flow" we all flow equally, that's the only fair way to do it.
If you are truly worried about your so called idea of discrimination then why do you not mention anything about how all regional pilots are discriminated against by mainline pilots for different pay and benefits for the same work performed?
03-22-2017 | 04:43 AM
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Here is another job that requires a degree. It IS a requirement to have a 4-year degree to be an officer in the US Air Force and it doesn't matter what your degree is in. My degree was accounting and I was a navigator. It is simply a box you have to check. This is also true of many federal civilian jobs that I have looked at over the years. Check out usajobs.gov if you don't believe me. The federal government discriminates against non degree holders often.
Something to think about for those that do not have a degree. If we ever get a flow but DAL still has a degree requirement then all expenses for getting a degree are tax deductible since it is a requirement to get the job.
03-22-2017 | 05:31 AM
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Here's the most ironic part of regional v. mainline. Let's say you fly the 200. You have 5 flights today, and an average of 40 pax per flight. Let's see, that's 5x4 and add the zero (college degree stuff)--ok 200 passengers and 2 or 3/5 landings.
Mainline dude flies the 7ER one leg across the country with a load of 168 passengers and gets 0/1 or 1/1 landing.
Nope, I'll; go ahead and say it. Regional pilots PROBABLY have more experience than mainline pilots by way of takeoff/landing cycles, which btw raises our safety exponentially and measurably, and maybe-just-maybe some of us fly more passengers than our superiors, so-to-speak.
Mainline dude flies the 7ER one leg across the country with a load of 168 passengers and gets 0/1 or 1/1 landing.
Nope, I'll; go ahead and say it. Regional pilots PROBABLY have more experience than mainline pilots by way of takeoff/landing cycles, which btw raises our safety exponentially and measurably, and maybe-just-maybe some of us fly more passengers than our superiors, so-to-speak.
03-22-2017 | 05:31 AM
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Legal assistant, administrative specialist, most general management positions, operation management positions, sales representatives in most fields, purchasing representatives, insurance underwriter, corporate project manager.... It almost easier to name the jobs that require a specific degree.
03-22-2017 | 05:32 AM
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You can view the degree as a check in the box if you want, but most companies read a bit more into it. Many want to know how well you did, especially if they are going to invest money into training you. They want to know you have a history of performing well in a training. While physically flying the plane is a monkey skill that just about anyone can learn how to do, knowing all the other aspects of the industry that apply is more book learning. To that end, if you do get a degree in golf or painting, at least you have shown that you can pass a classroom environment and you are a better bet on successfully completing an expensive training program vs the guy who does not have a degree.
03-22-2017 | 05:34 AM
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And don't get me started on situational awareness. I'll keep my comments away from the cockpit and just say, regional pilots stand either in front of or behind their luggage on escalators. Mainline pilots stand beside their luggage so as to not let anyone pass. haha. Go ahead, see for yourself.
03-22-2017 | 06:02 AM
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