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No, it was a fellow pilot telling me to engage NAV mode around 200’. The CFM tells us to select speed mode at V2 + 10, and HDG/NAV mode at 400’. Then he requested A/P on about 3-400’ vs. 600’. Said it was in a memo, but I did not remember such.
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I may not have it exactly right, but I think it’s when the company, due to “operational necessity”, increases pilots from (for example) 75 hours of credit to 83. They are essentially “pushing” credit on you, making you work more than normal.
This is a direct email I got from the PBS guys about this exact question.
"What is it:
The credit push is defined by any line holding pilot who is awarded more than the minimum credit (usually 75 hrs) without asking for it in some way in their bid. It happens when there is more credit in a base then 75 hrs (usually) per line holding pilot.
For example, if preassigned credit + trip credit / total number of pilots in a base worked out perfectly everyone would get 75 hours of credit and get 16 days off.
When does it happen:
With 500 hrs vacation and training in a month
With 7000 hrs of trips in a base in a month
With 100 pilots holding a line in that base in a month
If the fake numbers above work out, those 100 line holders would get 75h00 of credit for that month. If you take more credit then this in the base pilots will start to be pushed.
Where it happens:
It happens at the bottom of the line holders. Since 7500 hours of credit in a 100 pilot base usually isn’t the case, we have to cover that additional flying. Here is a screen shot from last month of the bottom 35 line holders with a few people who bid reserve in there as well. Line type is the first column, next column is credit for the month, followed by the days off column. The ones that say REGULAR are the regular line holders, the ones that say P2 are reserve, so skip them. Work your way down the list, the first group is between 75-80 hours, those aren’t credit pushed. Then there is an 85h37 credit hour line. Following that there are more 75-80 line credits. That would mean the 85h37 hour line bid for credit in some way, so he isn’t pushed. Fast forward to the bottom. You’ll notice a huge increase in credit awarded. 93, 86, 81, (skip the reserve), 87, 81, 89. Those numbers are way higher than the 75 hr minimum the solver tries to give each pilot, but the flying has to be covered. So it (credit) pushes that flying on to those pilots. The pushed pilots usually end up with more credit, less days off, less bid preferences honored."
"What is it:
The credit push is defined by any line holding pilot who is awarded more than the minimum credit (usually 75 hrs) without asking for it in some way in their bid. It happens when there is more credit in a base then 75 hrs (usually) per line holding pilot.
For example, if preassigned credit + trip credit / total number of pilots in a base worked out perfectly everyone would get 75 hours of credit and get 16 days off.
When does it happen:
With 500 hrs vacation and training in a month
With 7000 hrs of trips in a base in a month
With 100 pilots holding a line in that base in a month
If the fake numbers above work out, those 100 line holders would get 75h00 of credit for that month. If you take more credit then this in the base pilots will start to be pushed.
Where it happens:
It happens at the bottom of the line holders. Since 7500 hours of credit in a 100 pilot base usually isn’t the case, we have to cover that additional flying. Here is a screen shot from last month of the bottom 35 line holders with a few people who bid reserve in there as well. Line type is the first column, next column is credit for the month, followed by the days off column. The ones that say REGULAR are the regular line holders, the ones that say P2 are reserve, so skip them. Work your way down the list, the first group is between 75-80 hours, those aren’t credit pushed. Then there is an 85h37 credit hour line. Following that there are more 75-80 line credits. That would mean the 85h37 hour line bid for credit in some way, so he isn’t pushed. Fast forward to the bottom. You’ll notice a huge increase in credit awarded. 93, 86, 81, (skip the reserve), 87, 81, 89. Those numbers are way higher than the 75 hr minimum the solver tries to give each pilot, but the flying has to be covered. So it (credit) pushes that flying on to those pilots. The pushed pilots usually end up with more credit, less days off, less bid preferences honored."
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At AWAC we departed out of DCA RWY 01 about four times a day and we would engage NAV mode at gear rotation whether using the National Five (using the VOR) or subsequently the RNAV procedures now in use.
BUT, as always, policy is policy so if it says wear out your finger pushing extra buttons, do it.
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Technically it doesn't matter when below 400' you engage NAV mode because it automatically goes to HDG mode IF below 400'. Then it switches to NAV at 400'. If you engage HDG mode first then it requires a second button push, this time NAV mode, at 400' or higher.
At AWAC we departed out of DCA RWY 01 about four times a day and we would engage NAV mode at gear rotation whether using the National Five (using the VOR) or subsequently the RNAV procedures now in use.
BUT, as always, policy is policy so if it says wear out your finger pushing extra buttons, do it.
At AWAC we departed out of DCA RWY 01 about four times a day and we would engage NAV mode at gear rotation whether using the National Five (using the VOR) or subsequently the RNAV procedures now in use.
BUT, as always, policy is policy so if it says wear out your finger pushing extra buttons, do it.
Let’s keep this simple - at the positive rate callout. PF calls gear up Speed mode and or HDG/NAV mode as required. Autopilot comes on at 600ft for T.O. No memo has ever existed for AP use on T.O. Below 600ft for the CRJ900 under Endeavor operations.
Capiche?
Again
Example
P.F. Gear up, Speed mode, Heading mode.
Example 2
P.F. Gear up, Speed mode, NAV mode.
Cool? Cool.
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Well, if you want to keep it by the books, the manuals say to engage SPEED mode at V2 + 10-15, and NAV/HEAD at 400’. There is a bit of a pause between each, as you attain the correct speed and altitude.
Not saying your method doesn’t work, but that’s not how the company has written it.
Not saying your method doesn’t work, but that’s not how the company has written it.
Let’s keep this simple - at the positive rate callout. PF calls gear up Speed mode and or HDG/NAV mode as required. Autopilot comes on at 600ft for T.O. No memo has ever existed for AP use on T.O. Below 600ft for the CRJ900 under Endeavor operations.
Capiche?
Again
Example
P.F. Gear up, Speed mode, Heading mode.
Example 2
P.F. Gear up, Speed mode, NAV mode.
Cool? Cool.
Capiche?
Again
Example
P.F. Gear up, Speed mode, Heading mode.
Example 2
P.F. Gear up, Speed mode, NAV mode.
Cool? Cool.
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Yes, you are correct. It simply arms the FMS when you hit NAV below 400’, and stays in heading mode until then. (No one I have ever flown with pushes two buttons).
But the original post I made was about turning A/P on below 600’. Was told there was a memo allowing it, but I didn’t remember reading it, that’s why I was asking.
But the original post I made was about turning A/P on below 600’. Was told there was a memo allowing it, but I didn’t remember reading it, that’s why I was asking.
Technically it doesn't matter when below 400' you engage NAV mode because it automatically goes to HDG mode IF below 400'. Then it switches to NAV at 400'. If you engage HDG mode first then it requires a second button push, this time NAV mode, at 400' or higher.
At AWAC we departed out of DCA RWY 01 about four times a day and we would engage NAV mode at gear rotation whether using the National Five (using the VOR) or subsequently the RNAV procedures now in use.
BUT, as always, policy is policy so if it says wear out your finger pushing extra buttons, do it.
At AWAC we departed out of DCA RWY 01 about four times a day and we would engage NAV mode at gear rotation whether using the National Five (using the VOR) or subsequently the RNAV procedures now in use.
BUT, as always, policy is policy so if it says wear out your finger pushing extra buttons, do it.
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