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Old 09-05-2019 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AimHigh1
On the 8710, what boxes need to be filled in? I feel like this can be done completely wrong if you don't do it the right way. Thanks.
The steps that we took, according to instructions from the PWM FSDO:

- The certificate is ATP.
- The request is limitation removal... specify the specific limitation on the form.
- Leave Part II blank.
- Fill in Parts III and IV.
- The DPE certifies that they've reviewed your logbook and/or training record.
- The appropriate attachments are selected on the form and included.

I'm still waiting on the plastic certificate. The FAA hasn't made it to 8710s from my date yet. If any of the above changes, then I'll send an update.
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Old 09-05-2019 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
I thought Delta just required ATP eligible not an actual ATP (though they do require the written)
Delta doesn't require an unrestricted ATP to apply, but United does.

Originally Posted by Blueskies21
I have heard recently of a guy who went to a DPE after the company said no and got the restrictions removed for like $100.
$100 is what I was told to expect for an hour's worth of time. We ended up only taking half an hour, so it cost me $50. Show up prepared and save more than just time, I guess.
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Old 09-05-2019 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Anyone have a line on attrition trend for August? Are we on track to break 40 this month?
13, very surprised
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Old 09-05-2019 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorpr
13, very surprised
Only 13?
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Old 09-06-2019 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by blindfayth
Only 13?
Filler
Maybe that’s why the vacancy is so tiny... they’re really not going to get that much movement going with only 48 upgrades.
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Old 09-06-2019 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by flydiamond
Maybe that’s why the vacancy is so tiny... they’re really not going to get that much movement going with only 48 upgrades.
I doubt there will even be 48 upgrades. They won’t backfill some of the secondary vacancies most likely.
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Old 09-06-2019 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
The word that we got was one 8710 for each limitation, so we did two forms. The first form was submitted with logbook pages for 61.167, and the second form was submitted with FT-SOE for the PIC type limitation. Check with your DPE about whether an electronic copy of the FT-SOE form would work.
No, just one 8710 for multiple limitation removals. In the top right, check limitation removal then list which ones where it says specify. More than 1 8710 will drive the examiner nuts, he will just tell you to add them all to 1 8710 and list all them under “specify”
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Old 09-06-2019 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
I've been told by multiple people that the company won't remove the restriction at recurrent; only at upgrade.

I thought Delta just required ATP eligible not an actual ATP (though they do require the written)

I have heard recently of a guy who went to a DPE after the company said no and got the restrictions removed for like $100.

Your mileage may vary.
IF you get an APD for your LOE, they might remove it. Hint...don’t wait until after the debrief to ask. Anyways Odds are you will get a PCA though especially once hiring ramps up.
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Old 09-07-2019 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mooney
IF you get an APD for your LOE, they might remove it. Hint...don’t wait until after the debrief to ask. Anyways Odds are you will get a PCA though especially once hiring ramps up.
PCP’s only do CQLOE’s. Because the upgrade/initial LOE often has a new hire FO getting their ATP/Type it’s an APD’s job.
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Old 09-07-2019 | 06:00 AM
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8 brand new CR9s being constructed for us with serial numbers between 15478 and 15493. Possibly the last CRJs to ever be built so be nice to them.

Also, historically speaking, brand new planes generate loads of MELs. Be forewarned.
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