Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
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Exactly. Delta can (if they will, is yet to be seen) afford to match AA in whatever way they decide. UAL owns 49% of commuteair, so they could probably be ok too. But go-jet, mesa, republic? I don’t see how they can. Skyworst probably can get close, at least temporarily. Going to be interesting.
side note- I’ve spoken with a few DL pilots over the past week or 2 (before and after the AA news) and the ones I spoke to were very supportive of 9E and both even mentioned a “staple” of some sort unprompted. Just found that interesting.
side note- I’ve spoken with a few DL pilots over the past week or 2 (before and after the AA news) and the ones I spoke to were very supportive of 9E and both even mentioned a “staple” of some sort unprompted. Just found that interesting.
That's been my experience, too. The sample size is small, but the sample I've talked to is actually larger than the loudest "staple hell no" contingent that APC has to offer.
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#1 thing EDV/DL could offer at this point would be a longevity credit when flowing. Kicks the cost off the regional partner, and makes it tempting to stay instead of LCC. Flow over at year 3 pay? That’s 150-160/hr and a huge leg up for the rest of one’s career. Other idea would be flowing 20 but putting say 30 on the list a month. Issue is any of these would require DALPA concurrence, which wouldn’t be on their radar until the PWA is done I’d imagine (remember DAL hasn’t has a pay raise since early 2019).
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If it were my decision, I would exercise options on the A220 to replace all the CRJ's. The CRJ is EOL, so stop the hiring at Endeavor, and start moving pilots over at 100 a month to cover flying on the new A220s. The newer CRJ's can be transferred to Skywest.
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And they're going to staff them how? They're in a worse spot than Endeavor is... You're not wrong, just not sure anyone will be left standing to fly the CRJ when it's all said and done. Skywest would rather be all 175 at this point I bet.
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AA threw a grenade at Endeavor, and I don't know what options Delta has. A staple is not workable due to the seniority inversion it creates, the Endeavor senior pilots would have a right to sue under McCaskill-Bond, and they would.
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9E pilots have a flow program in place to get them to DL. Senior 9E pilots—if they opt to flow—already start at the bottom of the list. It's a moot-point.
What it would do is seriously throw into question the textual meaning behind the term "transfer of ownership or control" that the law is defined by, but that's for the lawyers.
AA definitely threw a grenade at 9E and DL by inking these latest LOAs with its wholly-owneds, but a staple doesn't create the type of seniority inversion that McCaskill-Bond protects against.
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This is different. When seniority lists were merged in 2001 when AA bought TWA, TWA didn't have a flow to AA. They were completely separate companies, and what we would later know as McCaskill-Bond had merit. The fences that were put up were unrealistic and senior TWA pilots had a genuine grievance. (Fun fact: there are still 12 of them on property at AA today.)
9E pilots have a flow program in place to get them to DL. Senior 9E pilots—if they opt to flow—already start at the bottom of the list. It's a moot-point.
What it would do is seriously throw into question the textual meaning behind the term "transfer of ownership or control" that the law is defined by, but that's for the lawyers.
AA definitely threw a grenade at 9E and DL by inking these latest LOAs with its wholly-owneds, but a staple doesn't create the type of seniority inversion that McCaskill-Bond protects against.
9E pilots have a flow program in place to get them to DL. Senior 9E pilots—if they opt to flow—already start at the bottom of the list. It's a moot-point.
What it would do is seriously throw into question the textual meaning behind the term "transfer of ownership or control" that the law is defined by, but that's for the lawyers.
AA definitely threw a grenade at 9E and DL by inking these latest LOAs with its wholly-owneds, but a staple doesn't create the type of seniority inversion that McCaskill-Bond protects against.
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