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Old 09-14-2016 | 12:40 PM
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Less than 40%? I won't argue that the overall success of the SSP has been lower than what you would typically see in OTS interview groups, but it's not lower than 40%. Numerous people have plenty of right to be upset over how things played out, but over exaggerating just discredits your argument.
Envoy is a very appealing place right now without a doubt. But as I said, I don't think this is End-State for 9E either. When it swings back our way next should they all jump ship again? Stop reshuffling the regionals, sit tight, negotiate better contracts, keep your apps out and be ready to go when it gets called on.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Slaveaway
That's even worse not knowing the hire rate is. You go to Envoy, make good money. Move onto AA. No bs politics or whatever have you.
Ask any former Mesaba pilot how their flow turned out...
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Old 09-14-2016 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sturbmaster
Ask any former Mesaba pilot how their flow turned out...
Depends if u ask the 100 that flowed or guys like me

(Going eventually though so whatever)
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Old 09-14-2016 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnTheFO
Envoy has higher pay and a guaranteed flow. Meanwhile 9Es hire rate into delta is less than 40% at times.
Says the guy who joined APC in 2016. Welcome to the regional environment where the latest is always the greatest. What's that upgrade time again?
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Old 09-14-2016 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyinFool
In this environment I think it unwise for any to jump ship unless American is their Dream Job. Endeavor is still tip of the spear if you ask me. With the improvements we continue to see year after year I'd just as soon sit tight and watch it unfold while you build seniority and increase QOL. This isn't End-State
I'd be shocked if any new hire from now on chooses Endeavor over Envoy. What do we have to sell to new hires now? You have a chance at Delta? We love NY?! With possible displacements in the very near future, I don't see point a in coming here if MSP/DTW is where you live.

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Old 09-14-2016 | 01:48 PM
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Life sucks, then you die. Only one guarantee in life, one life- live it.

In the end, everyone makes the best decision at the time. In the end, some win the lotto, some hit rock bottom, and many will follow with the tide. Rising tides tend to lift all.

That's enough of being morbid. All you can do is figure out your own situation, your own opportunities, and make the best of it. The idea of jumping regionals rarely works out to get to a major quicker. Keep eyes on the goal and execute. A guaranteed interview is simply a proving ground. If your mission (from a career standpoint) is to be at Delta, Endeavor gives you that chance. The interview, with prep and a background showing you are in the right mindset with execution, is not something to fear.

Going elsewhere only decreases the probability on Delta and further complicates the interview questions of "why did you leave XYZ". If you don't care what major you fly for, well, your situation is different, but you must analyze what you need to get the interview elsewhere. O, you need PIC time in a jet under 121? Well shop around, last I heard we have folks in new hire class who will be upgrading once they get 100 in type with the hours they walked in with. So yea, sorry, not a street captain, gotta wait a couple months (backhand to forehand screaming "o the humanity"). Make a goal, evaluate options, find your path, and execute.

For those who are newhires or potential newhires, it's not all about first year pay. It's a complete package with an end in mind. Where do you live? Will you move or commute? Will you need to be an FO for a while for time or will you be able to upgrade quickly? Do you want to upgrade quickly with QOL implications? Where do you want to end up? Now, what carrier gives you the best path based on above questions? Making more or less first year can be pointless if you can upgrade quickly and be on CA pay and getting pic time to where you want to be. View the full package. Too many folks talk about year 1 pay and don't look at their full outlook. Use your brain and think it all through.

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Old 09-14-2016 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo
Nope. You just have to let scheduling know. As long as they say it's ok then you can go.

That's what I thought, was thinking about grabbing a cheap one way rental to drive the less than 100 miles home after 1 leg on a 2 day trip
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Old 09-14-2016 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by stillcantfly
Rasict?? How about our FA walking around with BLM tags on her bag unreal!!! If we were to walk around with white lives matter we would be terminated Imediately....that's rasict
Spot-on, mate!
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Old 09-14-2016 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311
Get lost...come back when you can speak english
Says someone who's oblivious to proper usage [rule] in written English which requires uppercase letter to start the word 'English'!
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Old 09-14-2016 | 05:38 PM
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You can tell his level of knowledge...
AKA: Limited
Originally Posted by Max Glide
Says someone who's oblivious to proper usage [rule] in written English which requires uppercase letter to start the word 'English'!
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