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Old 09-18-2016 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
This is musical chairs. You should go somewhere you want to be in case the music stops. The world ain't exactly stable, nor is the economy. One linchpin type event and all this awesome movement stops.
It's just a movement of where the chairs are on the sinking Titanic (the regional industry). At some point, you've got to stick with the chair you are in.
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Old 09-18-2016 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
It's just a movement of where the chairs are on the sinking Titanic (the regional industry). At some point, you've got to stick with the chair you are in.
Or use your seat cushion as a flotation device and not drown with the rest of em.
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Old 09-18-2016 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchRapp
Or use your seat cushion as a flotation device and not drown with the rest of em.
I love it.
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Old 09-18-2016 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by madeinUSA
I'm seeing referrals already leaving for other regional airlines with flow agreements and comparable pay. Delta is going to have to do better than a guaranteed interview. I don't think pilots want to waste 3-5 years on a 50/50 chance.

As in pilots are leaving 9E for Envoy?
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Old 09-18-2016 | 02:37 PM
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I really don't understand why people would do that. You are leaving one job for the another that's the exact same. Pick a company that gets you QoL and stick with it until you can move on to something better.

Yes reserve sucks. It's straining my relationships and patience but it's a far cry better than going through 2-3 months of indoc training at another company.
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Old 09-18-2016 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo
I really don't understand why people would do that. You are leaving one job for the another that's the exact same. Pick a company that gets you QoL and stick with it until you can move on to something better.

Yes reserve sucks. It's straining my relationships and patience but it's a far cry better than going through 2-3 months of indoc training at another company.
Depends. If you were looking at msp or dtw base and all your friends went to airline x and already have it and it's still their junior base it might make sense.

Someday pilots are gonna have to learn to stop giving self serving career advice to their co workers. You wanna leave? Its ok. The best things that ever happened to endeavor was half the pilots bailing. Reminder, the "thanks for not leaving us check" posts in 2 days. Make it rain!
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Old 09-18-2016 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen
Depends. If you were looking at msp or dtw base and all your friends went to airline x and already have it and it's still their junior base it might make sense.

Someday pilots are gonna have to learn to stop giving self serving career advice to their co workers. You wanna leave? Its ok. The best things that ever happened to endeavor was half the pilots bailing. Reminder, the "thanks for not leaving us check" posts in 2 days. Make it rain!
Everybody seems a little happier right around that day.
Steak in the Qdoba this week!
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Old 09-18-2016 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen
Reminder, the "thanks for not leaving us check" posts in 2 days. Make it rain!
aka the "two months' rent in NYC check"
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Old 09-18-2016 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo
I really don't understand why people would do that. You are leaving one job for the another that's the exact same. Pick a company that gets you QoL and stick with it until you can move on to something better.

Yes reserve sucks. It's straining my relationships and patience but it's a far cry better than going through 2-3 months of indoc training at another company.
What would be Delta's motivation to sweeten the pot before now? They are getting a fair amount of new hires, and until Endeavor's package was pretty good. Still is. Now I would think if our ability to hire is impacted by the Envoy deal, or lateral movement increases, or both Delta will make a change. It doesn't make sense to run to Envoy this quickly. At least give it a couple months and get a better feel for things. Also it's rummored that the build up in New York is temporary and that equipment and flying will come back to the Midwest bases.
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Old 09-18-2016 | 04:27 PM
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Last thing I heard was long-term goal for flying is 55% NYC, 45% DTW/MSP. So it's pretty much a 25% split between all base airports.
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