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Old 01-25-2019 | 04:27 PM
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It's disappointing how the company thinks we need to take concessions for improved reserve rules when back when they were short on captains they seized the opportunity to negotiate a cost neutral agreement on a grievance that affected us. That grievance settlement should have not benefited the company in any way but the the union gave in. Just shows there is no good faith on the company's behalf.
The previous union leadership had one main goal and that was to get the protected pilots out the door as fast as possible. They even went so far as to almost admit in pools last email.

It’s up to us now to negotiate for what is right going forward. Time to get creative.
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Old 01-25-2019 | 04:44 PM
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No more cadet pipelines or rotor transition programs, for starters ... classes might be a lot smaller otherwise.
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Old 01-25-2019 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
The previous union leadership had one main goal and that was to get the protected pilots out the door as fast as possible. They even went so far as to almost admit in pools last email.

It’s up to us now to negotiate for what is right going forward. Time to get creative.
Poor morale = poor performance
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Old 01-25-2019 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy
Poor morel = poor performance
Substandard mushrooms will degrade performance, it’s a fact.
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Old 01-25-2019 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy
Poor morale = poor performance
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Old 01-25-2019 | 05:58 PM
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Is that my colon polyp?
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Carry on
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Old 01-25-2019 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Voski
No more cadet pipelines or rotor transition programs, for starters ... classes might be a lot smaller otherwise.
Don’t think the union has a say in any of that.
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Old 01-25-2019 | 06:28 PM
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I just don’t get why anyone commuting here or just starting here would not got to Frontier or Flexjet. Starting pay at Flexjet is 100,000 a year for a FO. This place is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to money, QOL, and health benefits. Basically everything that matters for you and your family or future family. God knows that if they jack with the flow after the protected pilots Envoy would crumble into a million pieces.
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Old 01-25-2019 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TeeRainPULup
I just don’t get why anyone commuting here or just starting here would not got to Frontier or Flexjet. Starting pay at Flexjet is 100,000 a year for a FO. This place is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to money, QOL, and health benefits. Basically everything that matters for you and your family or future family. God knows that if they jack with the flow after the protected pilots Envoy would crumble into a million pieces.
Are NH’s today given the same flow protection and guarantee that 824 & Protected Pilot groups have???

If a NH today with 9 yr flow gets a couple of step letters (disciplinary warning letters, for various range of things such as late departures/dings in pilot file record, sick call violations-according to CPO/Mgmts interpretation of a violation, a few MA/LR’s- due to not being covered by commuter policy, etc),.

Could company withhold NH’s today from flowing???? Hence flow not guaranteed in 9 years like many believe???

Legitimate question for all to learn from.
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Old 01-25-2019 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
Are NH’s today given the same flow protection and guarantee that 824 & Protected Pilot groups have???

If a NH today with 9 yr flow gets a couple of step letters (disciplinary warning letters, for various range of things such as late departures/dings in pilot file record, sick call violations-according to CPO/Mgmts interpretation of a violation, a few MA/LR’s- due to not being covered by commuter policy, etc),.

Could company withhold NH’s today from flowing???? Hence flow not guaranteed in 9 years like many believe???

Legitimate question for all to learn from.
HAHAHA. No you don't. Yes they will.
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