Envoy Air don’t come here
02-04-2019 | 01:57 PM
#421
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Go speak with anybody present during contract negotiations when they threatened to just walk into the crew rooms offer transfer to PSA and Piedmont with a faster flow and quicker upgrade than Eagle... and once you guys are all downgraded, back on reserve and shrunk small enough, you’re Comair II. So take these concessions or be unemployed. We went from 3200 pilots to 1500 while they carried out their threat.
There is no stability in the regional industry. It’s a shell game. Get in, get your time, get out
There is no stability in the regional industry. It’s a shell game. Get in, get your time, get out
02-04-2019 | 04:35 PM
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Cr700 you are so wrong. That's all you have is hope of the day will come so you can fly that big aa composite for 30 percent less than other mainline pilots. You know like the ones that come here these days that should actually go work at taco bell, its safer for all.
02-05-2019 | 05:30 AM
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If that’s how you feel about American in general then you should just leave man, that was a ridiculous comment.
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02-05-2019 | 06:16 AM
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I dont think so. Fact is your only response to facts are to ridicule. Fact is, yes flow is working as per contract/loa buf flow would not work without the bonus money to new hires. Fact qol, pay bottom of barrel at w/o regional
02-05-2019 | 06:29 AM
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02-05-2019 | 06:38 AM
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You should just leave. There is nothing wrong with Envoy and you are painting some awful picture which is nothing more than fantasy. Do you know Envoy is the #1 choice for pipeline pilots? They are scrambling for position just to get in line to get hired here.
02-05-2019 | 07:07 AM
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Some are actually trying to make a living here.
02-05-2019 | 08:24 AM
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Just because starry eyed kids who will take low pay for the travel benefits when they don’t know better are coming here doesn’t make it a great place to be.
Yes, there are some certain circumstances that make this company work for them and some of us have enough invested here that because of where we are in life leaving for anything other than a major just doesn’t make sense. Still doesn’t make it even a good company. And if you are early in your career and life, for most there are much better options.
02-05-2019 | 08:44 AM
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There is plenty wrong with Envoy. Sorry but there is. Reserve rules are bad and with the forced upgrades you are put back into the system at the bottom in what is likely an airplane and base you don’t want. Managements stance on requiring concessions just to TALK.
Just because starry eyed kids who will take low pay for the travel benefits when they don’t know better are coming here doesn’t make it a great place to be.
Yes, there are some certain circumstances that make this company work for them and some of us have enough invested here that because of where we are in life leaving for anything other than a major just doesn’t make sense. Still doesn’t make it even a good company. And if you are early in your career and life, for most there are much better options.
Just because starry eyed kids who will take low pay for the travel benefits when they don’t know better are coming here doesn’t make it a great place to be.
Yes, there are some certain circumstances that make this company work for them and some of us have enough invested here that because of where we are in life leaving for anything other than a major just doesn’t make sense. Still doesn’t make it even a good company. And if you are early in your career and life, for most there are much better options.
There are many things wrong with the company right now in terms of the pilot group.
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