New PSA Pilot Pay Agreement
04-28-2019 | 07:18 AM
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04-28-2019 | 08:35 AM
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04-28-2019 | 08:41 AM
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New PSA Pilot Pay Agreement
Negative! The bar is FedEx, UPS, DL, UA, AA, JB, SPR, FRT, or similar rates or at-least QOL and work rules!!!!!!
Middle finger to those who say or think otherwise! “But but we’re just a regional!” is a flacked up unwise, bull-dap mindset!
Awareness!
Ever heard the story of a FLEA with a glass ceiling up over its head???? Natural height is limited, even when the glass is removed. It thinks it can jump only yay | *| high, thinks it can only jump to the glass limit when the glass is removed. But FLEA can jump | *| over twice as high-naturally & intentionally the previous glass limit WITHOUT CONDITIONING!
We are conditioned at the regional to think we are less! Same thing has happened for so long in this industry that Unions outside of Aviation can not believe we allow! Or failure of Seniority representation! We’re taught to limit ourselves constantly, trained not to shake the cage. “To know our roll” our low value worth, and to shut up when asking to many questions.
Expect more! Demand more, we are worth more!
I agree with you [MENTION=70443]highfarfast[/MENTION]
04-28-2019 | 08:48 AM
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The negative! The bar is FedEx, UPS, DL, UA, AA, JB, SPR, FRT, or similar rates or at-least QOL and work rules!!!!!!
Middle finger to those who say or think otherwise! “But but we’re just a regional!” is a flacked up unwise, bull-dap mindset!
Awareness!
Ever heard the story of a FLEA with a glass ceiling up over its head???? Natural height is limited, even when the glass is removed. It thinks it can jump only yay | *| high, thinks it can only jump to the glass limit when the glass is removed. But FLEA can jump | *| over twice as high-naturally & intentionally the previous glass limit WITHOUT CONDITIONING!
We are conditioned at the regional to think we are less! Same thing has happened for so long in this industry that Unions outside of Aviation can not believe we allow! Or failure of Seniority representation! We’re taught to limit ourselves constantly, trained not to shake the cage. “To know our roll” our low value worth, and to shut up when asking to many questions.
Expect more! Demand more, we are worth more!
I agree with you [MENTION=70443]highfarfast[/MENTION]
Middle finger to those who say or think otherwise! “But but we’re just a regional!” is a flacked up unwise, bull-dap mindset!
Awareness!
Ever heard the story of a FLEA with a glass ceiling up over its head???? Natural height is limited, even when the glass is removed. It thinks it can jump only yay | *| high, thinks it can only jump to the glass limit when the glass is removed. But FLEA can jump | *| over twice as high-naturally & intentionally the previous glass limit WITHOUT CONDITIONING!
We are conditioned at the regional to think we are less! Same thing has happened for so long in this industry that Unions outside of Aviation can not believe we allow! Or failure of Seniority representation! We’re taught to limit ourselves constantly, trained not to shake the cage. “To know our roll” our low value worth, and to shut up when asking to many questions.
Expect more! Demand more, we are worth more!
I agree with you [MENTION=70443]highfarfast[/MENTION]
04-28-2019 | 09:10 AM
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Negative! The bar is FedEx, UPS, DL, UA, AA, JB, SPR, FRT, or similar rates or at-least QOL and work rules!!!!!!
Middle finger to those who say or think otherwise! “But but we’re just a regional!” is a flacked up unwise, bull-dap mindset!
Awareness!
Ever heard the story of a FLEA with a glass ceiling up over its head???? Natural height is limited, even when the glass is removed. It thinks it can jump only yay | *| high, thinks it can only jump to the glass limit when the glass is removed. But FLEA can jump | *| over twice as high-naturally & intentionally the previous glass limit WITHOUT CONDITIONING!
We are conditioned at the regional to think we are less! Same thing has happened for so long in this industry that Unions outside of Aviation can not believe we allow! Or failure of Seniority representation! We’re taught to limit ourselves constantly, trained not to shake the cage. “To know our roll” our low value worth, and to shut up when asking to many questions.
Expect more! Demand more, we are worth more!
I agree with you [MENTION=70443]highfarfast[/MENTION]
Middle finger to those who say or think otherwise! “But but we’re just a regional!” is a flacked up unwise, bull-dap mindset!
Awareness!
Ever heard the story of a FLEA with a glass ceiling up over its head???? Natural height is limited, even when the glass is removed. It thinks it can jump only yay | *| high, thinks it can only jump to the glass limit when the glass is removed. But FLEA can jump | *| over twice as high-naturally & intentionally the previous glass limit WITHOUT CONDITIONING!
We are conditioned at the regional to think we are less! Same thing has happened for so long in this industry that Unions outside of Aviation can not believe we allow! Or failure of Seniority representation! We’re taught to limit ourselves constantly, trained not to shake the cage. “To know our roll” our low value worth, and to shut up when asking to many questions.
Expect more! Demand more, we are worth more!
I agree with you [MENTION=70443]highfarfast[/MENTION]
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04-28-2019 | 10:41 AM
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Negative! The bar is FedEx, UPS, DL, UA, AA, JB, SPR, FRT, or similar rates or at-least QOL and work rules!!!!!!
Middle finger to those who say or think otherwise! “But but we’re just a regional!” is a flacked up unwise, bull-dap mindset!
Awareness!
Ever heard the story of a FLEA with a glass ceiling up over its head???? Natural height is limited, even when the glass is removed. It thinks it can jump only yay | *| high, thinks it can only jump to the glass limit when the glass is removed. But FLEA can jump | *| over twice as high-naturally & intentionally the previous glass limit WITHOUT CONDITIONING!
We are conditioned at the regional to think we are less! Same thing has happened for so long in this industry that Unions outside of Aviation can not believe we allow! Or failure of Seniority representation! We’re taught to limit ourselves constantly, trained not to shake the cage. “To know our roll” our low value worth, and to shut up when asking to many questions.
Expect more! Demand more, we are worth more!
I agree with you [MENTION=70443]highfarfast[/MENTION]
Middle finger to those who say or think otherwise! “But but we’re just a regional!” is a flacked up unwise, bull-dap mindset!
Awareness!
Ever heard the story of a FLEA with a glass ceiling up over its head???? Natural height is limited, even when the glass is removed. It thinks it can jump only yay | *| high, thinks it can only jump to the glass limit when the glass is removed. But FLEA can jump | *| over twice as high-naturally & intentionally the previous glass limit WITHOUT CONDITIONING!
We are conditioned at the regional to think we are less! Same thing has happened for so long in this industry that Unions outside of Aviation can not believe we allow! Or failure of Seniority representation! We’re taught to limit ourselves constantly, trained not to shake the cage. “To know our roll” our low value worth, and to shut up when asking to many questions.
Expect more! Demand more, we are worth more!
I agree with you [MENTION=70443]highfarfast[/MENTION]
04-28-2019 | 11:20 AM
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A 3rd year captain on reserve, no per diem, no additional hours. Pre-Tax values.
Envoy: $5,434.50
PSA: $6,576.00
Difference of 1141.5 per month
2nd year FO, same.
Envoy: $3,043.50
PSA: $3,915.75
Difference of 872.25 per month
3rd year captain, 72 hour line, 300 hours of per diem, pre-tax values, 10 additional hours picked up.
Envoy: $6,123.06
PSA: $7,913.20
Difference of 1790.14 per month
2nd year FO, 72 hour line, 300 hours of per diem, pre-tax value. 10 additional hours picked up.
Envoy: $3,530.46
PSA: $4,942.59
Difference of 1412.13 per month
6th year captain on band B vs PSA 6th year, 72 hour line, 300 hours of per diem, 10 additional hours of flying, pre-tax.
Envoy: $6690.30
PSA: $8,595.76
Difference of 1905.46 per month
Envoy: $5,434.50
PSA: $6,576.00
Difference of 1141.5 per month
2nd year FO, same.
Envoy: $3,043.50
PSA: $3,915.75
Difference of 872.25 per month
3rd year captain, 72 hour line, 300 hours of per diem, pre-tax values, 10 additional hours picked up.
Envoy: $6,123.06
PSA: $7,913.20
Difference of 1790.14 per month
2nd year FO, 72 hour line, 300 hours of per diem, pre-tax value. 10 additional hours picked up.
Envoy: $3,530.46
PSA: $4,942.59
Difference of 1412.13 per month
6th year captain on band B vs PSA 6th year, 72 hour line, 300 hours of per diem, 10 additional hours of flying, pre-tax.
Envoy: $6690.30
PSA: $8,595.76
Difference of 1905.46 per month
04-28-2019 | 01:26 PM
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Thanks for this break down but what is often over looked and hard to calculate is the value of a four day trip. 18 hour vs 22 equals a 22% raise. This is where we lack significantly behind regionals with similar pay structure. Any way you cut it we suck in terms of pay.
Great to be more productive on the days we are working. One leg to the hotel or one and done the last day that credits 0:55 is real hard to make up the other three days. And while that helps commutability, the company has no incentive to give us better schedules if we don’t have any kind of rig.
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