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Old 08-30-2019 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAsking
I heard envoy pilots who fail training at AA get to flowback to Mesa
That right there would really motivate people to study hard!
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Old 08-30-2019 | 12:01 PM
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So THATS how we are getting a west coast base, via outsourcing to Mesa!
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Old 08-30-2019 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JustAsking
I heard envoy pilots who fail training at AA get to flowback to Mesa
Don't forget the AA DUI flow to Mesa, too. Whoever originally posted that one deserves a medal.

Edit: found it!
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/mesa-airlines/118814-rumor-mesa-buying-american.html
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Old 08-30-2019 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
Don't forget the AA DUI flow to Mesa, too. Whoever originally posted that one deserves a medal.

Edit: found it!
Rumor Mesa buying American
This forum needs a 'like' button. Great find.
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Old 09-01-2019 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Personally, I’d rather the other two end it, and not add it here.
HERE? I'm sorry, did I miss the announcement where they reversed your termination?
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Old 09-01-2019 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
HERE? I'm sorry, did I miss the announcement where they reversed your termination?
Old news. He is still a valuable source of info.
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Old 09-02-2019 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
HERE? I'm sorry, did I miss the announcement where they reversed your termination?
https://youtu.be/RUFT35S7Jb4
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Old 09-02-2019 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Yeah you have issues. Me a mgt troll? Haha ok “buddy”. Im going to end my interactions with you on this topic as you have a clearly personal interest in this topic, most likely what the above poster said and won’t have a fair discussion on the validity of either side.
The reason I responded like that is because you may not know the door you will open. Last time we had flowback provision for furloughed pilots, they were only able flow back as many as had flowed, that was 125 pilots but the loop holes sent back 500 flow backs back as captains with seniority for pay.

To be honest what you ask does not effect me in any way but will be a detriment to junior pilots. There is no way you will have enough guarantees to protect envoy pilots from mgt abuse of what you ask for. It would be just another recruitment tool.
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Old 09-02-2019 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
The reason I responded like that is because you may not know the door you will open. Last time we had flowback provision for furloughed pilots, they were only able flow back as many as had flowed, that was 125 pilots but the loop holes sent back 500 flow backs back as captains with seniority for pay.

To be honest what you ask does not effect me in any way but will be a detriment to junior pilots. There is no way you will have enough guarantees to protect envoy pilots from mgt abuse of what you ask for. It would be just another recruitment tool.
Honestly, what the other WO have are apples and oranges when talking about flow back provision. It’s not a flow back in the sense of what existed years ago. All it entails is that when a pilot flows, they are placed on a 90 day leave of absence from their carrier. That way if any issues pop up during training, they return from the leave and start working the old gig again. Beyond 90 days, they’re SOL.
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Old 09-02-2019 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
Honestly, what the other WO have are apples and oranges when talking about flow back provision. It’s not a flow back in the sense of what existed years ago. All it entails is that when a pilot flows, they are placed on a 90 day leave of absence from their carrier. That way if any issues pop up during training, they return from the leave and start working the old gig again. Beyond 90 days, they’re SOL.
Make it completion of IOE. If they get canned after that, probably their own damn fault.
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