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Freighthotdog 08-12-2021 04:22 PM

What is envoys currently fleet plan for the E145? Retiring a certain amount of aircraft per month?

highfarfast 08-12-2021 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Freighthotdog (Post 3278550)
What is envoys currently fleet plan for the E145? Retiring a certain amount of aircraft per month?

There's one more 140 scheduled to park soon. As far as I know, the 145s aren't scheduled to be parked.

Freighthotdog 08-12-2021 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3278578)
There's one more 140 scheduled to park soon. As far as I know, the 145s aren't scheduled to be parked.

How many 145s are still left in the envoy fleet?

starphisone 08-12-2021 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by vikaask (Post 3278522)
Can confirm, I'm slated for an October class, according to the hiring folks, all the furloughs are in class/done and the rest of the new classes are new hires!

You get a call or email? First or second class for Oct?

pitchattitude 08-12-2021 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Freighthotdog (Post 3278587)
How many 145s are still left in the envoy fleet?

Way too many. 57 was the last number I saw, as of May, with no schedule for divestment.

TransWorld 08-12-2021 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3278627)
Way too many. 57 was the last number I saw, as of May, with no schedule for divestment.

That is what is reported on Plane spotters:

Envoy
1 E140
57 E145
1 E170
98 E175

Piedmont
57 E145

PSA
61 CRJ-700
69 CRJ-900

Rumor has Envoy transferring more E145s to Piedmont starting Sept 2021. Also, it appears Envoy has a significant order (62?) of new E175s, likely to backfill for those E145s, plus potentially some growth. But those are unconfirmed rumors.

Will Piedmont fly those additions birds or will they retire some of their oldest E145s? Don’t know. Will those additional E175s mean reduced flying for the non WO regionals flying for AA? Don’t know.

pitchattitude 08-12-2021 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3278632)
That is what is reported on Plane spotters:

Envoy
1 E140
57 E145
1 E170
98 E175

Piedmont
57 E145

PSA
61 CRJ-700
69 CRJ-900

Rumor has Envoy transferring more E145s to Piedmont starting Sept 2021. Also, it appears Envoy has a significant order (62?) of new E175s, likely to backfill for those E145s, plus added flying. But those are unconfirmed rumors.

Where does it “appear” that more 175s are on order? The last six new ones were sold off to RAH. AAG and ENY has always made a BIG deal of any new 175 aircraft LONG before they were ever seen (last of the order took almost five years to show up, and technically the last six were used 170s instead). Especially the way ENY is going on recruiting now, I’d think they would want that info officially released, yesterday.

The way past transfers and divestments went and with training being what it is, if they announced tomorrow that all the 145s were going away, it would take at least three years to make it happen.

TransWorld 08-12-2021 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3278640)
Where does it “appear” that more 175s are on order? The last six new ones were sold off to RAH. AAG and ENY has always made a BIG deal of any new 175 aircraft LONG before they were ever seen (last of the order took almost five years to show up, and technically the last six were used 170s instead). Especially the way ENY is going on recruiting now, I’d think they would want that info officially released.

Just my ear to the ground. Consider it unsubstantiated from an unnamed source. I promised confidentiality.

pitchattitude 08-12-2021 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3278641)
Just my ear to the ground. Consider it unsubstantiated from an unnamed source. I promised confidentiality.

Considering an aircraft purchase of that size is a pretty big deal, I doubt there are a dozen people that would know about it unless it’s announcement was imminent.

But, I guess one of the ramper’s sister’s hairdresser would probably be one of those dozen.

As far as any of the non-WOs loosing flying, SKW just added a bunch of planes to the contract. If any of them loose anything it would be Mesa, but even that has been extended, albeit in a slightly reduced and constrained manner.

I really don’t see PDT growing. I think when ever the rest of 145s do finally start to go away from ENY the total number AAG flies will just be reduced. Don’t know the age/hours/cycles of PDTs aircraft, but I just don’t see them doing much more than they are now. But that’s just a personal SWAG.

captive apple 08-12-2021 07:29 PM

62 new planes is a big debt load.


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