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ninerdriver 08-05-2021 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3273820)
stuff

All of those vendors' UA sides (including Mesa) will outlive C5.

Republic's AA flying will outlive PDT. Based on the life of the CRJ, Republic might outlive PSA, too.

Skywest will grow in lieu of Horizon. It will grow in lieu of Alaska, for what it's worth.

Cujo665 08-05-2021 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 3273878)
"3 years from flow" and not going to frontier is very dumb on all fronts.

depends.....

Cujo665 08-05-2021 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3273996)
WHO are you referring to? This doesn’t sound like a carrier that is shrinking.

neither did TSA.....

Cujo665 08-05-2021 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3274062)
All of those vendors' UA sides (including Mesa) will outlive C5.

Republic's AA flying will outlive PDT. Based on the life of the CRJ, Republic might outlive PSA, too.

Skywest will grow in lieu of Horizon. It will grow in lieu of Alaska, for what it's worth.

1st -agree but will be smaller

2nd- agree. Very likely AA WO’s will end up consolidated

3rd- disagree.

ninerdriver 08-05-2021 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3274117)
3rd- disagree.

Curious... why? Alaska has no scope, and the Horizon C-suite has proved that it can't manage a ham sandwich, never mind an airline.

buddies8 08-05-2021 07:05 PM

Sounds like Horizon mgt must be taking lessons from envoy mgt.

Cujo665 08-07-2021 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3274120)
Curious... why? Alaska has no scope, and the Horizon C-suite has proved that it can't manage a ham sandwich, never mind an airline.

no regionals will be growing.

TransWorld 08-07-2021 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3275375)
no regionals will be growing.

Unless there is a consolidation, buyout, or replacement of another regional, what you say is true. I expect several regionals to wink out in the next couple of years. If you read back far enough in my posts, I predicted this several years ago.

Cujo665 08-08-2021 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3275664)
Unless there is a consolidation, buyout, or replacement of another regional, what you say is true. I expect several regionals to wink out in the next couple of years. If you read back far enough in my posts, I predicted this several years ago.

I called it back in 2013-2014 that this was coming. It started in mid 2015 and was about to go full tilt when Covid gave them time to regroup and restructure; they wasted the opportunity and now it’s going to be interesting once the backlog of guys that hit 1500 this past 1.5 years get sucked up, because there aren’t enough coming in behind them for all the hiring at all four 121 levels. Regional, ACMI, LCC & Legacy. It’s a staffing crunch of their own creating.
called BigSky, Lakes, TSA & Compass all over a year in advance. I do remember your posts warning folks of the same things.

havick206 08-08-2021 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3275774)
I called it back in 2013-2014 that this was coming. It started in mid 2015 and was about to go full tilt when Covid gave them time to regroup and restructure; they wasted the opportunity and now it’s going to be interesting once the backlog of guys that hit 1500 this past 1.5 years get sucked up, because there aren’t enough coming in behind them for all the hiring at all four 121 levels. Regional, ACMI, LCC & Legacy. It’s a staffing crunch of their own creating.
called BigSky, Lakes, TSA & Compass all over a year in advance. I do remember your posts warning folks of the same things.

Pretty much everyone else called it too. Would you like a participation trophy?


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