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moonraker9 04-12-2021 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3220562)
the best part is the few that stayed, who WERE going to get 145, got rewarded by the company and changed them to 175. The Union had a field day with that.

wow that's gold... Sure the 175 is nice but the goal for everyone should be to get in to the regionals and get out as fast as possible, not fly the shiniest jet.

pitchattitude 04-12-2021 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3220562)
the best part is the few that stayed, who WERE going to get 145, got rewarded by the company and changed them to 175. The Union had a field day with that.

What class was this? Not buying it.

Like I said in my previous post, nothing I could find to support this.

NoValueAviator 04-12-2021 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by moonraker9 (Post 3220573)
wow that's gold... Sure the 175 is nice but the goal for everyone should be to get in to the regionals and get out as fast as possible, not fly the shiniest jet.

having flown both i'm going to tell you right now that there are absolutely guys who have flown and even upgraded successfully on the 175 who would lose their jobs on the 145

it's not a stick/rudder thing although apparently many of us can't land right. it's a complete lack of situational awareness and planning.

point being that perhaps some of these pilots know they're weak and know the airplane will take up some of the slack for them.

pitchattitude 04-12-2021 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3220590)
What class was this? Not buying it.

Like I said in my previous post, nothing I could find to support this.

And yet you seem to be ignoring this.

When did Envoy have a class that was only 145s and all but two walked out and subsequently were given 175s??

jonnyjetprop 04-12-2021 11:24 AM

At least those planes still had an autopilot. Strap on a Metroliner or a Jetstream for 6-8 legs and see how’d they do.


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3220676)
please attempt to go to UND or Embry and make that statement to these kids nowadays. I would love to see their faces if someone told them they had to fly an ATR or SAAB


ImSoSuss 04-12-2021 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3220630)
having flown both i'm going to tell you right now that there are absolutely guys who have flown and even upgraded successfully on the 175 who would lose their jobs on the 145

it's not a stick/rudder thing although apparently many of us can't land right. it's a complete lack of situational awareness and planning.

point being that perhaps some of these pilots know they're weak and know the airplane will take up some of the slack for them.

LOL at thinking the 145 is hard to fly. Get over yourselves. I have my C-172 pitch/power worksheet already filled out and calibrated. Just a couple adjustments and all my climb outs and descents in the 145 will be a peace of cake.


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